New BATF ruling on stabilizing braces today

[actaeon277]

 

[DadSmith]

Fight Against Pistol Brace Rule!

Due to cowardly politicians, the pistol brace rule is in jeopardy of being considered for a vote in the House! We need you to take action and not allow fearful politicians to run away from protecting your rights!

www.votervoice.net

Pre written email that will go to your congressman about the brace ban bill.

 

[JAL]

Yeah I have zero faith in or trust for our legal system to do what's right and protect the people from these thugs in government

You also have the ability to bring a Federal Civil Action under 42 U.S. Code § 1983 for deprivation of rights. To do so, you would have to have standing before the courts . . . i.e. be a "wronged" party affected by a deprivation of rights. Read the conditions regarding bringing action against judicial officers acting in their judicial capacity. Everyone else is fair game without those conditions. The strength, foundation and constitutional authority of this statute appears to be based on the "Privileges and Immunities" clause in the 14th Amendment.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

 

[DadSmith]

 

[JAL]

Read the decision from the judge. The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. IMHO part of the problem in not getting one was in plaintiff filings . . . perhaps straightjacketed by page count and word count limits. Nevertheless, the judge cited that plaintiffs may eventually prevail at trial or in getting a Summary Judgement, but he wouldn't give a Preliminary Injunction now. Likewise, just because someone gets a Preliminary Injunction doesn't mean they will prevail in a Final Judgement, be it by trial or in a summary.

 

[KLB]

Read the decision from the judge. The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. IMHO part of the problem in not getting one was in plaintiff filings . . . perhaps straightjacketed by page count and word count limits. Nevertheless, the judge cited that plaintiffs may eventually prevail at trial or in getting a Summary Judgement, but he wouldn't give a Preliminary Injunction now. Likewise, just because someone gets a Preliminary Injunction doesn't mean they will prevail in a Final Judgement, be it by trial or in a summary.

The problem is by the time the decision is reached it will be too late for most people.

 

[Ingomike]

The problem is by the time the decision is reached it will be too late for most people.

This is another example of how little the courts, particularly the lower courts, believe in the rights of the people. If there is a glimmer of hope even, the deference should be to maintain status quo for the people. This is unjust…

 

[JAL]

The problem is by the time the decision is reached it will be too late for most people.

The workarounds until there's a final resolution abound. You don't have to destroy your pistol, turn it in, or SBR it.

 

[drillsgt]

This is another example of how little the courts, particularly the lower courts, believe in the rights of the people. If there is a glimmer of hope even, the deference should be to maintain status quo for the people. This is unjust…

We just have to get better at judge shopping like the left does.

 

[wcd]

Picked up a spare 16 inch barrel for my AR9 braced pistol. If they change the rules, I will swap out the barrel.

How difficult is it to swap out?

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

How difficult is it to swap out?

Same process as changing a 5.56 barrel on an AR-15. Need a bench mounted vice, upper receiver blocks and barrel wrench for removal. Need all that and a torque wrench and AeroShell grease for installation of the new barrel. Since 9mm is blowback, there is no need to mess with a gas tube. Plenty of vids on YT that show the process.

 

[nonobaddog]

Same process as changing a 5.56 barrel on an AR-15. Need a bench mounted vice, upper receiver blocks and barrel wrench for removal. Need all that and a torque wrench and AeroShell grease for installation of the new barrel. Since 9mm is blowback, there is no need to mess with a gas tube. Plenty of vids on YT that show the process.

What is a good barrel wrench? I don't want to pay for the best one ever, just one that will work without bending or breaking.

 

[JAL]

Same process as changing a 5.56 barrel on an AR-15. Need a bench mounted vice, upper receiver blocks and barrel wrench for removal. Need all that and a torque wrench and AeroShell grease for installation of the new barrel. Since 9mm is blowback, there is no need to mess with a gas tube. Plenty of vids on YT that show the process.

^^^^^
This. Brownell's has tutorial videos on just about everything.

Holding the upper receiver properly is a must to prevent damaging it. Ensure the grease is Aeroshell 33MS -- aka Aeroshell 64 -- and that you put it onto all mating surfaces and threads. Armorer's wrench (or crows foot depending on barrel nut) to deal with barrel nut should be about $30. You will need 1/2" drive socket wrench and a 1/2" drive torque wrench to torque the barrel nut down properly. Mil-Spec torque on the M16 barrel nut is 30-85 ft-lbs, but torque range can vary by barrel nut/shroud brand/type. If it doesn't need to be clocked for a gas tube to get over or through it, about 40-50 ft-lb does the job. More is overkill. Before buying the wrench, take the shroud off and look at the barrel nut. Some barrel nuts are specific to the shroud and are not "generic". Then buy the wrench to fit it. I've got several different barrel nuts on my uppers and not all of them can be removed or installed with a "generic" armorer's wrench.

 

[Fixer]

What is a good barrel wrench? I don't want to pay for the best one ever, just one that will work without bending or breaking.

Most will work good depending on your barrel nut. You will want to confirm that and get a vice block. The vice block will keep you from bending or breaking things. Wheeler Upper Receiver action rod is a nice one that isn't super expensive.

 

[Chance]

Same process as changing a 5.56 barrel on an AR-15. Need a bench mounted vice, upper receiver blocks and barrel wrench for removal. Need all that and a torque wrench and AeroShell grease for installation of the new barrel. Since 9mm is blowback, there is no need to mess with a gas tube. Plenty of vids on YT that show the process.

But you will also need an 8oz buffer weight to slow the cycle rate down to function properly. If not it can function like a Thompson SMG

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

But you will also need an 8oz buffer weight to slow the cycle rate down to function properly. If not it can function like a Thompson SMG

My current AR-9 pistol has a heavy buffer and 9mm bolt & carrier. The current 9mm barrel is 12 inches long. I'm replacing the 12 inch barrel with a 16 inch barrel. Then the firearm will be and remain a 9mm rifle.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[nonobaddog]

Damn spoons.

 

[indyblue]

Need a bench mounted vice, upper receiver blocks and barrel wrench for removal.

I think I paid $45 for this one. Don't remember where from, probably Midway. It's 3/8's" thick steel , not gonna bend.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Interesting.
TL;DW they voted to override it. Not totally sure what this means. I presume we are back to where we were before the ATF's proposed rule?