"My 5 Shot Snubby is Good Enough"

[Pepi]

But you're GONNA DIE!

Can get it done in 5 round I'm pretty much Forked

 

[Bosshoss]

You mean buying a revolver will not make me Jerry Miculek?

No more than buying a hi-cap autoloader will make you John Wick.

 

[NHT3]

Goes back to not sucking solves a lot of issues. You don't suck. You telling me that in that scenario you couldn't hit a fist sized target with a j-frame? I mean, I know I can and I'm not that good. With a modicum of training the vast majority of students were hitting 50y torsos at Sand Burr after the snub nose class. Not as fast as with a larger gun, of course, and again if you can carry a larger gun do it. But that's not the same as just constantly ******** on an option that works for a lot of people a lot of the time who just can't carry a duty pistol.

One of the biggest proponents of the full size or dead in the streets proponents who used to post here spent his work day unarmed. Go figure. The j-frame a similar has it's place as much as a rifle has it's place and hardware isn't the biggest concern.

Serious question, say you have 100 chips to assign to a hypothetical fighter before sending him off to face the scenario in question. How many chips would you assign to:

1) Basic gun handling: The ability to safely draw, present the firearm, fire the firearm upon command but not before, and safely put the firearm away.

2) Basic managing unknown contacts skills.

3) Decision making under stress skills.

4) Pure marksmanship skills, however you choose to define that.

5) Handgun selection.

6) Ammunition selection.

7) Unarmed skills.

8) CIT/Managing the mentally ill skills.

So, again, I ask @Route 45 or you or whoever would like to answer, what varies in the outcome of this event with revolver vs Glock? What is different in the outcome if our deputy shoots 7 less times or 12 more times?

Sir I fear you give yourself too little credit while affording others too much.. I've seen you shoot a revolver and working as RSO taught me that VERY few people can effectively hit a 8" circle at 5 yards, slow fire shooting a snubby.
Most people haven't had a modicum of training on their chosen EDC. I've instructed a number of people shooting revolvers on what the ejector rod was and how helpful it is in removing brass from the cylinder which tells me about their training regimen.
Choice of EDC or caliber aside it comes down to training and not sucking when the time comes. I will not pretend I know enough to give advice to anyone on defending themselves and defer to those that know, from experience, something about the subject.

 

[AEV Jeep Guy]

A wheel gun will is just as effective as a
Semi automatic pistol, if the individual is trained

 

[cedartop]

A wheel gun will is just as effective as a
Semi automatic pistol, if the individual is trained

Thats a pretty broad brush. The op was talking about a snub nose. While they can be of value, as someone once said, a man has to know his limitations and you are simple going to have more limitations with a 5 shot snubby than you are with a full size fighting handgun. Not to mention, your average gun carrier is from from well trained.

 

[cedartop]

 

[BigMoose]

I feel like this may be aimed at people like me who carry small semi autos a lot.

But it is a case of carry one of those, or.. carry nothing. I would rather have the small super concealable semi auto, then nothing.

 

[Amishman44]

i assume he was using a 9mm

Apparently a 9mm does NOT blow one's lung clean out of their body...or at least I think I remember having heard someone say something like that fairly recently...hmmmmm???

 

[Expat]

Apparently a 9mm does NOT blow one's lung clean out of their body...or at least I think I remember having heard someone say something like that fairly recently...hmmmmm???

Someone needs to send the video to Brandon. He will be shocked and stunned.

 

[DadSmith]

What if it's a 7 shot snubby?

 

[hoosiersasquatch]

Not sure we know the whole story, but Professor Longstick was acting quite bizarre, perhaps he was loaded up on something that kept him going longer than most people would being hit that many times.

 

[BigMoose]

What if it's a 7 shot snubby?

I thought all revolvers were six shooters..

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Most people haven't had a modicum of training on their chosen EDC.

Yup...which also goes back to "don't suck solves a lot of issues." People try to buy their way into the easy button, relying on hardware to save the day. Playing Gun Of The Month and worrying about HST vs Gold Dot or 9mm vs .45 Auto or sweating capacity to an incredible degree...but training and practice is hard, and access and availability of quality training is difficult. Even more difficult for anything other than pure mechanics or safety courses. Even then, sorting out the frauds and sortaknows from real experts is an adventure all to itself.

 

[manifest destiny]

Non-coppers are usually guarding against random acts of violence. Statistics suggest a person has very little chance of ever needing to shoot another person. I would suspect good situational awareness and basic profiling would be worth more than a sixth round of ammunition.

 

[Mij]

Yup...which also goes back to "don't suck solves a lot of issues." People try to buy their way into the easy button, relying on hardware to save the day. Playing Gun Of The Month and worrying about HST vs Gold Dot or 9mm vs .45 Auto or sweating capacity to an incredible degree...but training and practice is hard, and access and availability of quality training is difficult. Even more difficult for anything other than pure mechanics or safety courses. Even then, sorting out the frauds and sortaknows from real experts is an adventure all to itself.

All matters listed above, bang on. Now add to that the fight or flight reflex that “actually” occurs when that adrenaline dump hits your ass when someone points the business end of any gun at you and let’s go with the intent to end you’re life. Now you get to learn if you suck, AND if your training took root. I’m outa this one.

 

[1903 Perfection]

A calm old man, with strong working hands...that carries a Smith Model 36 in his Carhartt vest pocket, is probably not gonna be a victim.

 

[bobzilla]

A calm old man, with strong working hands...that carries a Smith Model 36 in his Carhartt vest pocket, is probably not gonna be a victim.

I mean from what I hear he might as well carry a flintlock cause he's gonna die.

edit: does carrying a flintlock also apply as carrying a rock? That would be two birds with one..... stone.

 

[manifest destiny]

Can you imagine trying to find a holster for a flintlock pistol? Let alone the looks you'd get walking around with it on your hip.

 

[Route 45]

I mean from what I hear he might as well carry a flintlock cause he's gonna die.

Add a 1500 lb go kart as a daily driver, and an Emeritus badge is just around the corner.

 

[bobzilla]

Add a 1500 lb go kart as a daily driver, and an Emeritus badge is just around the corner.

It’s 2500lbs thank you.