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    foszoe

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    Surprised you didn't hear there was no evidence to suggest that there was any blunt force trauma which contributed to the death according to ME reports. Usually you are very good about googling a subject and setting others straight.
    Well that's why I asked questions instead of making statements. Been a little busy
     

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    foszoe

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    NPR has a nice list of all those currently charged:



    If you think all these were just sane, patriots that got duped into running around like monkeys after being invited in by security, take some time, read their background, read their own confessions.



    They also have an article of the antifa infiltrators myth:
    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/02/972564176/antifa-didnt-storm-the-capitol-just-ask-the-rioters

    They were free men who made choices and are now suffering the consequences.
     

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    NPR has a nice list of all those currently charged:



    If you think all these were just sane, patriots that got duped into running around like monkeys after being invited in by security, take some time, read their background, read their own confessions.



    They also have an article of the antifa infiltrators myth:


    Get back to me when they hold everyone to the same standard.
    Short of that it's just normal leftist destructive politics that you are championing.

     
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    IndyDave1776

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    Compensate the central state for its "loss" of property. If the property is important enough to the central state, let the States lease the property back to the central state if thet choose. Just one idea. Let the negotiations begin!
    Why? We paid for it.
     

    IndyDave1776

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    I suspect negotiations would break down when, like the confederacy, the states wanting to secede insist that the federal property now belongs to them, and call every attempt the US government makes to secure their property, “Northern Aggression”.
    Again, who paid for that property?
     

    jamil

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    Gtown-ish
    Again, who paid for that property?
    The people of the United States collectively paid for that; it belonged to The United States. It never belonged to the people of the CSA. There is not a legitimate scenario where the CSA was within their rights to fire on Fort Sumter. The US had a right to occupy their own facility, and they had a right to re-supply it. I'd say they even had a right to include arms, ammo and troops as part of re-supplying, even though the US had agreed only to resupply food and non-military supplies. They have a right to defend their property.

    That shot on Ft Sumter was the first act of aggression that began the war. Of course there are many books written from the side of those aggressors that cherry pick facts to justify what happened. The crux of the war was indeed about slavery. The southern aristocracy exploited poor people and their own pride, prejudice and fear, to gaslight them into fighting to preserve their aristocracy.
     
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    jamil

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    Do you have any idea how retarded that sounds?
    Yea. But. It's true enough. With Kut's newfound insight with some personal inflection he should soon discover abstraction. And then he may figure out that he can apply the concept elsewhere. At some point he may use this to be able to discern the difference between a Trump voter and a Trump supporter. Hopefully this knowledge serves him well in the future. We should applaud it.
     
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