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    Wayne Root defects from LP to GOP - Charlotte Libertarian | Examiner.com

    This is the Libertarian Party's 2008 VP nominee. He says this election is too important to split the vote. He was on FNC this morning making his case.

    To add insult to injury, Root announced that he is endorsing Republican nominee Mitt Romney, saying, “I don’t deny that Romney and Ryan aren’t libertarians, but Romney is a pro-business capitalist and Obama is a Marxist-socialist. The economy has been trashed. This is about my kids’ future, it’s about my businesses. There is no hope for America if Obama is re-elected.”

    Here is a link to his letter:
    http://www.independentpoliticalrepo...an-party-leadership-will-seek-us-senate-seat/
     

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    Interesting that both the 2008 LP Presidential and VP candidates have come out for Romney... how long until the "they aren't real libertarians" comments start popping up...
     

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    That's dumb.

    The guy makes a logical argument for voting for the lesser of 2 evils because he believes that splitting the vote and allowing Obama a second term could push the USA past its tipping point and you make an ignorant comment that provides no real insight or contribution to this thread.

    As a Libertarian myself, I cannot see a way for me to vote for Gary Johnson, despite the fact that I supported his campaign early on and still believe in most of his ideals. If he splits off too many voters away from Romney then its clear we will have another Obama term and that will damage this nation more than I can imagine.



    Interesting that both the 2008 LP Presidential and VP candidates have come out for Romney... how long until the "they aren't real libertarians" comments start popping up...
    Rand Paul also fully endorsed Mitt Romeny and, while Ron Paul won't "fully endorse" Romney he also has not indicated any support for anyone else.
     

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    My comment was not ignorant. There are many reasons I sumerized it to just that. I have elaborated in other threads why I can't and won't vote for Romney.
    Changing your vote from third party to Romney is dumb. Makes me certainly question their IQ? Most everyone knows that a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama, as they are both so similar. My vote is for who will be best at the presidency, not "let's vote out this horrible man with this other guy we will dislike just as much"...that is dumb.
     

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    Where is your evidence that "most everyone knows that" because I think that polling data would disprove your statement pretty quickly.

    There is none, it is the standard excuse to justify one's decision to live in their black and white, all or nothing, my way (L) is the only way, Romney's no different than Obama world. But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    IMO, we hopefully will see more people finally coming to grips with the reality that we all face that another Obama term is very dangerous, and would push us well past the point of no return. IF we haven't moved past that point already.

    :twocents:
     

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    There is none, it is the standard excuse to justify one's decision to live in their black and white, all or nothing, my way (L) is the only way, Romney's no different than Obama world. But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    IMO, we hopefully will see more people finally coming to grips with the reality that we all face that another Obama term is very dangerous, and would push us well past the point of no return. IF we haven't moved past that point already.

    :twocents:

    OK now I get it.

    So basically what you are saying is that Wayne Root, the former Libertarian VP nominee, was a freaking genius in the eyes of people like "Classic Liberal" while he was a Libertarian, but as soon as Mr Root decided that there are some bigger issues to deal with, then he is an idiot who knows nothing and that logical thought makes no sense . . . even if pure logic is one of the principles upon which Libertarian ideals rest :):
     

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    OK now I get it.

    So basically what you are saying is that Wayne Root, the former Libertarian VP nominee, was a freaking genius in the eyes of people like "Classic Liberal" while he was a Libertarian, but as soon as Mr Root decided that there are some bigger issues to deal with, then he is an idiot who knows nothing and that logical thought makes no sense . . . even if pure logic is one of the principles upon which Libertarian ideals rest :):

    Yes, as soon as someone like Root moves off the plantation and realizes Obama is the enemy (yes that's how I feel about him POLITICALLY) and decides to look at the world realistically ie, there ARE shades of gray, they are renounced as heretics.
     

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    Yes, as soon as someone . . . moves off the plantation and realizes . . . there ARE shades of gray, they are renounced as heretics.

    So that explains why I still have LIBERTARIAN bumper stickers, why I still donate to the LIBERTARIAN party, but am shunned because I have made the choice to hold my nose and vote for Romney this time.

    It explains why I have my Ron Paul shirt and coffee mug and why I have my Gary Johnson bumper sticker that says "WE HAVE BROWNIES" and why people think I'm wrong for making a rational choice of trying to remove Obama from the White House instead of 'voting my principles' and leaving him in the Oval Office for 4 more years because I split my vote.
     

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    So that explains why I still have LIBERTARIAN bumper stickers, why I still donate to the LIBERTARIAN party, but am shunned because I have made the choice to hold my nose and vote for Romney this time.

    It explains why I have my Ron Paul shirt and coffee mug and why I have my Gary Johnson bumper sticker that says "WE HAVE BROWNIES" and why people think I'm wrong for making a rational choice of trying to remove Obama from the White House.

    Again, IMO yes. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary knowing full well he had no chance of winning the Republican nomination. I will vote for Romney because I feel the first priority is to remove Obama from office. EVERYTHING else is secondary.

    My choice to vote for Paul was to allow him the chance to have some influence over certain policies adopted by the GOP at the convention. Guess it didn't quite work out that way though. But hey, like a good liberal my intentions were noble....:rolleyes:
     

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    I think most hardcore Libertarians cannot see a difference between Obama and Romney so to them they are essentially one statist entity.

    Others take a more practical approach and can see a difference no matter how small it may seem and choose to try and defeat the greater evil which in this case is Obama.
     

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    There is none, it is the standard excuse to justify one's decision to live in their black and white, all or nothing, my way (L) is the only way, Romney's no different than Obama world. But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    IMO, we hopefully will see more people finally coming to grips with the reality that we all face that another Obama term is very dangerous, and would push us well past the point of no return. IF we haven't moved past that point already.

    :twocents:

    And you somehow think having Romney in office would stop that direction? I heard no plans to reduce government, only expand it. Romney can't solve the country's problems, especially when he has no interest in doing so. Not sure when they plan on doing QE3, but I can guarantee that either Obama or Romney will support it, but make some bull**** statement about not wanting to do it, but it is for the good of our economic future.
     

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    Well, if he is comfortable with his decision, good for him. He is a politician and I sense some sort of kickback. He's been supporting the GOP for a long time via Dr Paul so I just don't see this as much of a stretch or a surprise.

    I don't have a banner for any political party for this reason. I will support and give money to candidates I want to see win. For me, that's Gary Johnson and that's not going to change unless there are massive platform changes by Romney or BHO.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Libertarians are being told to forget their principles because this is the election of all elections. We have to get Obama out now and we can try to get a libertarian in next time. Only problem is next time, their'll be a new socialist wet dream running as a dem in 2016 and we have to vote against him, we can vote our principle in 2020. Wash, rinse, repeat.
     

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    Like the commies took over the D's, the L's are moving the GOP to the right. Dream all you want, its a 2 party system. Remember the green party? They all voted for the Big O. Look where it got him, the win. Don't let the Big O keep you up at night, sleep on your principles.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Like the commies took over the D's, the L's are moving the GOP to the right. Dream all you want, its a 2 party system. Remember the green party? They all voted for the Big O. Look where it got him, the win. Don't let the Big O keep you up at night, sleep on your principles.

    He doesn't keep me up at night at all. I see it as a rigged game that can't be won so why get worked up over it?

    If the L's are moving the R's to the right, how far left were they before the convention? The R's shut the L's out and they made no bones about it.
     

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    :tinfoil:

    The timeline is not between the convention and now, it is years. How about the pre-tea party years, was the GOP more right before them?
     

    hornadylnl

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    :tinfoil:

    The timeline is not between the convention and now, it is years. How about the pre-tea party years, was the GOP more right before them?

    The new Tea Party is the old republican establishment. It started as something good and got coopted quickly. Almost 40 tea party house reps voted to punt the senate's role of advise and consent.
     
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