Lawful carry

[Bill of Rights]

Yet, the peasant still had to beg for permission from the state just to exercise a constitutionally protected right...

^^This.

If they can tell you “no”, or they have the ability (not necessarily the *lawful* ability) to track to whom permission has been granted, it is not a “right” but a privilege.

If one chooses to get blackout drunk, it would seem that is more of a right than one that is specified in the Constitution. I am not advocating excessive (or any) drinking of alcohol, nor speaking against doing so, only saying that alcohol has killed far more innocents than have firearms in the hands of peaceable people.


Blessings,
Bill

 

[actaeon277]

^^This.

If they can tell you “no”, or they have the ability (not necessarily the *lawful* ability) to track to whom permission has been granted, it is not a “right” but a privilege.

If one chooses to get blackout drunk, it would seem that is more of a right than one that is specified in the Constitution. I am not advocating excessive (or any) drinking of alcohol, nor speaking against doing so, only saying that alcohol has killed far more innocents than have firearms in the hands of peaceable people.


Blessings,
Bill

People have brought up about asking permission.
What about when the .gov SHUTS DOWN the license dept. or gun stores. Such as during a PANDEMIC?
And it's not even "paranoia", since it happened.

 

[Bill of Rights]

People have brought up about asking permission.
What about when the .gov SHUTS DOWN the license dept. or gun stores. Such as during a PANDEMIC?
And it's not even "paranoia", since it happened.

Truth.

I can't 100% discount the fears of the uninformed, and for exactly that reason: They are uninformed. Those who are willing to listen and read and educate themselves obviously can be taught. The ones who are willingly and intentionally uninformed or let's be kind and say underinformed, less so. What we need is a Joe Friday News source: Just the facts, man (apologies to Jack Webb) No "spin", no angles. "Today, a bill was presented in the Senate Judiciary committee titled "Lawful Carry", the description of which reads, "....(text of description here)...." The bill is co-authored by Sen. Brown, who chairs the committee, but who declined to either allow amendments to it or to put the bill up for a vote.
Joe Friday News has learned that Governor Eric Holcomb's staff has confirmed that the governor has been in contact with Senate leadership to prevent the bill from passing to his desk."

It could be argued that the above is "spin" and further, that spin is unavoidable, being present in word choices and in which facts are deemed relevant to present.

Although, Act, to counter your point above, "when the .gov shuts down the license dept. or gun stores" is far too late, as some (many?) California celebs found out during Rodney King, when they went to gun stores and were told that they could pay for their gun today, and the two week waiting period for which they had campaigned applied to them too, even now, in the middle of a riot. If you wait for the pandemic to hit to go apply for your license, you may be dead before you receive it. Five months waiting in Indianapolis just to be fingerprinted.

That's at least 4500 news cycles on the Short Attention Span networks!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Jeepster48439]

For those here not following the 2022 Legislative thread.

Call to Action on HB1077. Next week is when House bills are taken up by the Senate.

Here is a link to a cut/paste letter to Sen. Bray to assign HB1077 to the Corrections and Criminal Law Committee.

2022 Legislative Session Thread

Any word on 1077? Only able to send one email today. Had planned to call, but that pesky work thing got in the way. The 2nd half of the session starts next Monday HB1077 will then be assigned to a committee then the process starts all over again

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[CTBay]

That's sorta true and sorta not true. Without getting deep into the weeds, we can get felony convictions but it's significantly more time consuming and resource intensive, especially if they aren't local. There's no real central repository for convictions, since each county/state keeps their own. You end up having to query a central database, the database tells you which states have records, then you query that state for that record. A III combines some steps, but is also time consuming and not everyone can request them (although each department should have at least one someone that you can request request it for you, it's a different level of access that requires a longer training course to access it directly)

When you run a license plate does it automatically alert you the registered owner had a LTCH? I saw on a cops style show, an officer runs a plate and an audible alert sounds from the computer telling the officer the owner has a permit. That was in another state. Does Indiana have same or similar system?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

When you run a license plate does it automatically alert you the registered owner had a LTCH? I saw on a cops style show, an officer runs a plate and an audible alert sounds from the computer telling the officer the owner has a permit. That was in another state. Does Indiana have same or similar system?

There is no standardized system in Indiana, but some will automatically query the LTCH database and some won't. The current IMPD system does, but no audible alert and it's buried in about 18 different automatic checks.