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    BigRed

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    Socialism has taken root.

    My Dad likened socialism to a mad dog. He said, "If you don't want that dog biting you, you've got to cut off its tail."

    I asked, "How does cutting off a dog's tail stop it from biting?"

    "You've got to cut off its tail right at the base of its neck."
     

    rooster

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    Can anyone actually give a reason as to why we shouldn’t return to the policy’s that brought us economic expansion in the 1950’s?

    strong unions, high taxation, a generation provided free college ( by way of GI bill but still free) and buying American made goods and surplus military rifles being sold to civilian market like candy.

    ya know, other than whining that it’s not fair for the Uber wealthy to pay taxes.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    Can anyone actually give a reason as to why we shouldn’t return to the policy’s that brought us economic expansion in the 1950’s?

    strong unions, high taxation, a generation provided free college ( by way of GI bill but still free) and buying American made goods.

    ya know, other than whining that it’s not fair for the Uber wealthy to pay taxes.
    First. Nobody said the Uber wealthy shouldn’t pay taxes. You’re being intentionally obtuse because nobody agrees with your socialists views. Not a single comment said the wealthy shouldn’t pay taxes.

    2nd, why and the **** would I want to pay more taxes when half the country doesn’t work and collects free **** already?! You make it sound as if the boom post ww2 is strictly from taxes. Spoiler alert... it’s not. There were no competing economies.

    3rd, if you wanna pay 90% have at it. You can do that. They’ll allow it. I expect tax time next year you will post a picture of your return proving you gave 90% of your income to Uncle Sam.
     

    phylodog

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    Can anyone actually give a reason as to why we shouldn’t return to the policy’s that brought us economic expansion in the 1950’s?

    strong unions, high taxation, a generation provided free college ( by way of GI bill but still free) and buying American made goods.
    The 1950's were extremely prosperous in large part due to the fact that you had an entire generation of Americans who had faced death, stared it in the eyes and came to realize what was actually important. They knew and understood the value of freedom and didn't take it for granted. They knew the difference between right and wrong and that expecting someone else to bear more of the burden than yourself was ********.

    Who the **** actually thinks they should have the right to determine what someone else can and cannot do with what they've earned? I can't even begin to get my head wrapped around that level of entitlement.

    Can someone show me an example of the successful socialist utopia we should be chasing? Where has this wonderful idea been such a raging success that we should attempt to emulate it here?
     

    rooster

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    How is the desire to return to the policies that made this country great socialism?

    I never suggested community ownership. Simply an attempt at using previous successful policies to fix the debt crisis and deficit we already have.

    calling it socialism just shows a lack of creativity on your part. Perhaps I should just through out some labels about you that have nothing to do with this because I don’t like what your saying.
     

    phylodog

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    A lack of creativity. I'll give ya that, I've never been able to get behind the idea of changing the definition of words if I find them unpleasant or fear others might unlike the socialist leftists do on this a regular basis. Calling it socialism is a simple refusal to ignore the reality of what it is you're wanting.

    The policies of the 1950's didn't make this country great, the people did. Most of those people are now dead so we find ourselves in the midst of the biggest **** show the world has ever seen.

    We have a government in place which is out and out buying votes and printing money at an absurd rate and you believe increasing taxes is gonna fix it? Give me a break
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    How is the desire to return to the policies that made this country great socialism?

    I never suggested community ownership. Simply an attempt at using previous successful policies to fix the debt crisis and deficit we already have.

    calling it socialism just shows a lack of creativity on your part. Perhaps I should just through out some labels about you that have nothing to do with this because I don’t like what your saying.
    Sorry. Communism. Better?



    You want the government to control the income/profit/wealth of the population. You want the government to control the education (free college provided by .gov). You’re focused on class warfare, wealthy vs middle vs lower. You’ve made references to classes multiple times in this thread. Another commie tactic.

    And calling it a “return to the policies” is ludicrous. It was a temporary tax rate to rebuild from a major world war. It was understood and accepted that it was to be a temporary increase until things were back to NORMAL.
     

    rooster

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    In case anyone has forgotten a significant portion of the debt is from a 20 year Middle East war (7 trillion).

    Phylo is right that generation (that fought WW2) was Willing to take responsibility for their expenditures and pay for them. Now everyone wants a free lunch, all this spending for 20 years and no one wants to pony up to pay for it.

    I’m not calling for communism or socialism, that involves calling for government programs or control. I’m calling for everyone to pay their share of the credit card bill
     

    phylodog

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    I’m not calling for communism or socialism, that involves calling for government programs or control. I’m calling for everyone to pay their share of the credit card bill
    That is the crux of the issue. I don't feel that anyone else should bear more of the responsibility than I do, or less for that matter.
     

    rooster

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    That is the crux of the issue. I don't feel that anyone else should bear more of the responsibility than I do, or less for that matter.
    From looking at the 1950 tax code it appears the wealthy of the greatest generation thought their fair share was a little more than that of the working class
     

    phylodog

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    From looking at the 1950 tax code it appears the wealthy of the greatest generation thought their fair share was a little more than that of the working class
    Did they have more say in the matter than we do today? I don't approve of the current tax codes, I suspect they didn't either. Either way it doesn't change the fact that no person should have to carry more weight than anyone else (I'm talking able bodied adults).
     

    wtburnette

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    That's why I'm an advocate of a flat tax. The overall taxes collected would be more, but individually we could each pay less. That's about as "fair" as we could ever get for taxes. Along with that, we would have to impose limits on the leeches in our government. They spend money like they have it, when they in fact do not. They should not be allowed to push us into debt like they are currently doing and all spending should be audited inside and out to ensure the spending is beneficial. Not sending money to scientists to study the mating habits of chimps on cocaine or some such stupid :poop:
     

    Ingomike

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    Can anyone actually give a reason as to why we shouldn’t return to the policy’s that brought us economic expansion in the 1950’s?

    strong unions, high taxation, a generation provided free college ( by way of GI bill but still free) and buying American made goods and surplus military rifles being sold to civilian market like candy.

    ya know, other than whining that it’s not fair for the Uber wealthy to pay taxes.
    You need to study the history and learn the difference between correlation and causation...
     
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