Is it a pistol? AOW? SBR? Or illegal?

[Leadeye]

Posturing by the dc leadership of the bureau, looking for attention or promotions from a possible incoming Biden administration. Same game the FBI played expecting a Clinton administration in 2016, ended up destroying much of the agencies credibility sadly. Really we need to get fedeal law enforcement broken up and scattered around the nation like maybe 5 regions with nothing in dc. They are becoming political police forces.

 

[MontereyC6]

Couple scary updates to this:

https://youtu.be/-5mHmiNfZLM

https://youtu.be/q3g-5uJBZ4A

Apparently the ATF wants to classifyany AR Pistol as an AOW, requiring a 5$ tax stamp to avoid a felony charge.

$5 stamp is to transfer from a dealer. If you wanted to make your own(which most of AR pistols out there are) it would require a $200 stamp.

 

[FKIM01]

I read somewhere, maybe here, that the ATF actually visited someone in person because he/she bought too many firearms in a short enough period of time. They had triggered some audit, and agents actually showed up at the doorstep of the person.

Had this happen to me a few years ago. Resulted in me getting my FFL.

 

[sloppyjoe]

Had this happen to me a few years ago. Resulted in me getting my FFL.

What kind of purchase history triggers this visit?

 

[Floivanus]

$5 stamp is to transfer from a dealer. If you wanted to make your own(which most of AR pistols out there are) it would require a $200 stamp.

Hand the thing over to a proper dealer, have them file on it, then transfer to you for $5.

 

[bsmithg19]

I think thats a stupid risk to take myself so I wont be doing it.
Why would they risk freedom and losing your gun rights over a grip?
Even on bcm's package it says VFG. That's gonna be hard to explain in court when even the manufacturer labeled and sold it to you as a vertical forgrip.
Also even if you win in court, you are most likely bankrupt now.
Nope, not me

It doesn't matter what the manufacturer calls it, it's what the ATF defines it as. Manufacturers called them bumpstocks and the ATF called them machine guns. If the ATF says 90° and it's 89° it doesn't meet their own definition. If they have a problem with 89° then they can change their definition. If speeding is 56mph then driving 55mph is not skirting the law, it's staying within compliance.

 

[tuoder]

I would say it's missing an optic.

 

[999cs]

Classified as UAF, Ugly As F.......

 

[BryceB]

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I’m not an expert or anything but honestly I would just take off the grip to be safe, but I’m sure from what I’ve read from the replies that it is legal. You do you

 

[daddyusmaximus]

It is.... whatever they say it is... on any given day.


In case y'all have figured it out... That's how it works now.