Indiana Lifetime Carry Permits now Free

[DadSmith]

speaking as a concerned citizen here.

the only way i see CC as beneficial is if the prosecutors & judges uphold the law. make the criminals pay for the firearms crimes they commit.

otherwise we'll have a bunch of thugs running around like they're marshall dillon.

We need harsher penalties for felons who arm themselves knowing they shouldn't. Minimum 25 years for having a gun if a they have a firearm on their person, 50 minimum if a felon uses a firearm to commit a crime, and life if they shoot someone, death penalty if they murder someone. No three strikes BS.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

We need harsher penalties for felons who arm themselves knowing they shouldn't. Minimum 25 years for having a gun if a they have a firearm on their person, 50 minimum if a felon uses a firearm to commit a crime, and life if they shoot someone, death penalty if they murder someone. No three strikes BS.

Yeah, but no. No need to put Jasper in prison for 25 years because he "forgot" about that drunk driving in another county.

We don't need more laws. Just need prosecutors who do not screw up the laws we have.

Good luck with that endeavor. My neighbor was murdered on her doorstep; the defendant was acquitted, and the prosecutor was re-elected with 60% of the vote and the 2 deputy prosecutors that bungled the prosecution are both now judges.

Don't change the law, change the culture.

 

[DadSmith]

Yeah, but no. No need to put Jasper in prison for 25 years because he "forgot" about that drunk driving in another county.

We don't need more laws. Just need prosecutors who do not screw up the laws we have.

Good luck with that endeavor. My neighbor was murdered on her doorstep; the defendant was acquitted, and the prosecutor was re-elected with 60% of the vote and the 2 deputy prosecutors that bungled the prosecution are both now judges.

Don't change the law, change the culture.

The law as is how harsh is it for a felon if caught with a firearm? How many years? Also if they use it in a crime?

I ask because a guy stole some medication from my home and they caught him with a stolen firearm he only did 1 year in prison and he's out walking the streets. That isn't justice. Sticking them in Club Med for a year or two to lay around get fat on 3 meals a day and do nothing.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The law as is how harsh is it for a felon if caught with a firearm? How many years? Also if they use it in a crime?

Federal or state, sir?

 

[DadSmith]

Federal or state, sir?

State

Jasper is a known felon and was driving around drunk with a firearm? He knew better yes 25 years minimum.

I mean violent felons not non violent felons. In fact I believe non violent felons should get their lives back if they serve their time.

 

[Brandon]

Free,.... HA! Had to change the address on mine because of a change in residence two weeks ago and had to pay $20. Bet I'll have to pay another $20 to change the address again in December when my new home is done.

Dirty Steve

When we moved we just changed the address and did not order new cards because we knew we were moving again.

I stayed under the radar and never had a problem.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

State

Jasper is a known felon and was driving around drunk with a firearm? He knew better yes 25 years minimum.

I mean violent felons not non violent felons. In fact I believe non violent felons should get their lives back if they serve their time.

Depends on the type of conviction that Jasper has.

If Serious Violent Felon, then Level 4 felony, 2-12 years, presumptive 9.

26 categories of SVF: https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-47-4-5.html

If "firearm" is handgun and Jasper has any felony with time limit, then Level 5 felony, 1-6 years.

 

[chipbennett]

speaking as a concerned citizen here.

the only way i see CC as beneficial is if the prosecutors & judges uphold the law. make the criminals pay for the firearms crimes they commit.

otherwise we'll have a bunch of thugs running around like they're marshall dillon.

And that's different from how criminals behave here, now - or under any other set of laws, for that matter - how, exactly?

Putting restrictions on the law-abiding, shockingly, has no impact on the actions of criminals.

 

[DadSmith]

Depends on the type of conviction that Jasper has.

If Serious Violent Felon, then Level 4 felony, 2-12 years, presumptive 9.

26 categories of SVF: https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-47-4-5.html

If "firearm" is handgun and Jasper has any felony with time limit, then Level 5 felony, 1-6 years.

So obviously they gave him an excellent deal.

 

[MCgrease08]

Free,.... HA! Had to change the address on mine because of a change in residence two weeks ago and had to pay $20. Bet I'll have to pay another $20 to change the address again in December when my new home is done.

Dirty Steve

There is no need to pay for an updated card when you change your address. Just changing it in the system is adequate. My card still has an old address from several moves ago.

But the point is valid that it's still not completely free. Especially if you live in Marion County.

Indiana's lifetime license to carry a gun is now fee-exempt but not free

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — Indiana starting Thursday exempted all fees for a lifetime license to carry a handgun, but that does not mean it’s a free license. Tracy Lewis is one of the thousands of people around the state getting fingerprinted for a license to carry a gun. Lewis started her...

www.wishtv.com

 

[grillak]

Nothing changes in that regard with constitutional carry, so called "prohibited" persons are still prohibited. Reasonable, responsible people will stay the same. Idiots will still be idiots with or without the government permission slip...

oh. i agree. but...lol.

i think what would happen is that EVEN MORE idiots that should not even own a rubberband will now legally carry their stolen guns.

i am not arguing against CC by any means. any true supporter of the constitution could not and would not. i see a very dangerous problem coming.

i am arguing FOR holding judges & prosecutors accountable for their decision to not punish gun crimes accordingly.

 

[Pepi]

This is like missing free ice cream at Mcdonald's. I paid 150.00 years ago for my lifetime and now it's FREE Was Bernie involved with this FREE thing

 

[chipbennett]

oh. i agree. but...lol.

i think what would happen is that EVEN MORE idiots that should not even own a rubberband will now legally carry their stolen guns.

i am not arguing against CC by any means. any true supporter of the constitution could not and would not. i see a very dangerous problem coming.

i am arguing FOR holding judges & prosecutors accountable for their decision to not punish gun crimes accordingly.

This is the part that doesn't compute. Why does someone who is a proper person (i.e. someone who can legally possess a firearm) need to carry a stolen gun?

(And in Indiana, post-Pinner, with or without constitutional carry, merely carrying a firearm cannot be the basis for stop, search, or arrest, anyway.)

 

[sheepdog697]

In before "where's my refund, dammit?"

Seriously though, where’s my refund,....damnit

 

[STEEL CORE]

I paid for both my wife and I, so we had our licenses and were good to go years ago, money well spent (IMHO).

 

[Oldschool1911s]

Well Duh! What we want is the Constitution honored, and constitutional carry for Hoosiers. Psssttt, just a little secret, the bad guys already carry without the government permission slip.

That poor guy.... someone should tell bo-bo so he actually knows! Some times I feel so sorry for him..... NOT!! saying that you need a F15 and a nuclear bomb is the exact Tyrannical government that the 2nd Amendment was written for.

 

[cobber]

I thought it was going away

/s

That’s why it’s free?

 

[rooster]

That’s why it’s free?

*taps forehead*

Can’t pay for what you can’t have

 

[grillak]

This is the part that doesn't compute. Why does someone who is a proper person (i.e. someone who can legally possess a firearm) need to carry a stolen gun?

(And in Indiana, post-Pinner, with or without constitutional carry, merely carrying a firearm cannot be the basis for stop, search, or arrest, anyway.)

exactly this. why?

it's about building their street cred.

i'm not saying it makes sense.

 

[Jaybird1980]

oh. i agree. but...lol.

i think what would happen is that EVEN MORE idiots that should not even own a rubberband will now legally carry their stolen guns.

i am not arguing against CC by any means. any true supporter of the constitution could not and would not. i see a very dangerous problem coming.

i am arguing FOR holding judges & prosecutors accountable for their decision to not punish gun crimes accordingly.

Someone walking around with a stolen gun is already a crime. Making honest people get a license to exercise a right that they already posses will not stop someone who is already willing to commit the crime.

I do agree with holding judges and prosecutors accountable. One of the things that pisses me off the most is when they use the excuse " well we didn't prosecute because we might not win". Just so they can have a high conviction rate. Ever wonder why the conviction rate average is what 93%? It's because they let all but the slam dunks walk.