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  • tim87tr

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    Please, by all means tell me how cash bail is "racist twaddle." I doubt you have even the faintest idea what you're talking about.
    I believe he was making fun of it in IL when he said it's mandatory in Texas. I may be wrong but lawyers enjoy a good argument where they draw people into the spiderweb.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Please, by all means tell me how cash bail is "racist twaddle." I doubt you have even the faintest idea what you're talking about.

    Cash bonds are used to inherent advance racist interests just as license to carry are used to advance systemic racism. Cash bonds are used to impact those on the lower end of the SES which are disproportionately racial minorities.

    Prosecutors know that keeping people in jail will lead to more guilty pleas rather than trials so they oppose the elimination of cash bond. No one who has been involved in the criminal justice system, outside of police unions, denies the racial disparity. We all know why cash bond is used, to force pleas, and it negatively impacts racial minorities.

    As yourself how it is fair that people on federal felonies walk out of jail on signatures while those with misdemeanor Theft or Criminal Trespass malinger in jail as they cannot afford $500 for bond?



     
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    Cash bonds are used to inherent advance racist interests just as license to carry are used to advance systemic racism. Cash bonds are used to impact those on the lower end of the SES which are disproportionately racial minorities.

    Prosecutors know that keeping people in jail will lead to more guilty pleas rather than trials so they oppose the elimination of cash bond. No one who has been involved in the criminal justice system, outside of police unions, denies the racial disparity. We all know why cash bond is used, to force pleas, and it negatively impacts racial minorities.

    As yourself how it is fair that people on federal felonies walk out of jail on signatures while those with misdemeanor Theft or Criminal Trespass malinger in jail as they cannot afford $500 for bond?



    Just to be clear, if the accused is a poor white guy, would the cash bond requirement still be racist?
     

    bobzilla

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    Just to be clear, if the accused is a poor white guy, would the cash bond requirement still be racist?
    Don’t bother. One “systemic racism”
    Is brought into the conversation all intelligence leaves. It’s an idea that can never be proven nor disproven because anything, and I do mean literally anything, can be spun to be systematically racist. It’s like beating your head against a wall
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Don’t bother. One “systemic racism”
    Is brought into the conversation all intelligence leaves. It’s an idea that can never be proven nor disproven because anything, and I do mean literally anything, can be spun to be systematically racist. It’s like beating your head against a wall
    No, we have the stats. It is proven that it is racist.

    We just need to reform it.
     

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    Yes, because cash bond adversely impacts racial minorities far more than the majority population. It's not a secret.
    Well if those poor poor diddunuffins could just stop breaking the law. This would all go away. My oldest son his wife and my two granddaughters were just rear ended by some of these lovely people of which you speak. The cops clocked these assholes doing 150 mph in a 2022 infinity after stealing some air Jordan’s from a Nike outlet near Chattanooga just before hitting two cars my son’s truck being one of them. All survived with minor injuries thank god. As the cops drug the drivers worthless ass out of the crash they chastised her for endangering my granddaughters. My son heard her response “ I hope all dem white **&$# is dead especially the kids!” All human excrement like these people and the jackasses who say you can’t hold them in jail it’s racist can burn in hell!
     
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    Much like the ******** kirks buddy’s in the media saying OMG! 70 percent of the arrests in Fergeson MO are black! Nevering Fing mind that that demographic makes up 80 percent of the population.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Well if those poor poor diddunuffins could just stop breaking the law. This would all go away. My oldest son his wife and my two granddaughters were just rear ended by some of these lovely people of which you speak. The cops clocked these assholes doing 150 mph in a 2022 infinity after stealing some air Jordan’s from a Nike outlet near Chattanooga just before hitting two cars my son’s truck being one of them. All survived with minor injuries thank god. As the cops drug the drivers worthless ass out of the crash they chastised her for endangering my granddaughters. My son heard her response “ I hope all dem white motherfuckers is dead especially the kids!” All human excrement like these people and the jackasses who say you can’t hold them in jail it’s racist can burn in hell!

    Those are not minor offenses, but like I said, your example demonstrates that the current system is racially based and needs reform. Eliminating cash bond for minor offense, say all misdemeanors would be a welcomed modification.

    Again, on the federal side, people walk on signatures for felonies, why cannot we do this on the state side?
     

    bobzilla

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    Well if those poor poor diddunuffins could just stop breaking the law. This would all go away. My oldest son his wife and my two granddaughters were just rear ended by some of these lovely people of which you speak. The cops clocked these assholes doing 150 mph in a 2022 infinity after stealing some air Jordan’s from a Nike outlet near Chattanooga just before hitting two cars my son’s truck being one of them. All survived with minor injuries thank god. As the cops drug the drivers worthless ass out of the crash they chastised her for endangering my granddaughters. My son heard her response “ I hope all dem white motherfuckers is dead especially the kids!” All human excrement like these people and the jackasses who say you can’t hold them in jail it’s racist can burn in hell!
    But remember they can’t be racist unless they are white.
     

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