Impeach Trump for the Good of the Country

[Libertarian01]

Nixon resigned to escape an impeachment trial. Impeaching a former official is pointless, although I think there should be a similar mechanism where a former offical could be barred from holding office again. Aside from that, if a former office-holder’s conduct is criminal, let the legal justice system prosecute zim.

I hear what you are saying, but step back for a moment and consider the full weight of what you (and probably many others) are thinking about.

By passing a law or "mechanism" to bar someone from holding public office again that would be giving the government, which is always the "current" power to directly refuse the will of the people who are voting to elect someone they support.

As our culture, not just our county, but our culture is based upon the will of the people being fulfilled the more power you give the government to say "no" to a potential candidate the less power the citizenry has.

We already have term limits for the president. The president is unique in this limitation because that office is held by one (1) person, so 1/3 of the governmental power is in a single persons hands. I think this is the reason so many folks are Okay with term limits for the president. But going beyond just term limits we start to shift the balance of power away from the people.

I am not saying you are wrong, but this is something that we should take great care in considering before pursuing. That's my only thought.

Regards,

Doug

 

[Doug]

The Constitution does allow an official convicted after impeachment to be barred from holding public office again. It is optional and it is included in the impeachment articles passed by the House. In fact, blocking Trump from running in 2024 is the only reason Pelosi is pushing for conviction.

 

[KG1]

The Constitution does allow an official convicted after impeachment to be barred from holding public office again. It is optional and it is included in the impeachment articles passed by the House. In fact, blocking Trump from running in 2024 is the only reason Pelosi is pushing for conviction.

Well of course it's the reason. A Senate trial wouldn't even be conducted in time to remove him from office.

 

[Hawkeye]

The Constitution does allow an official convicted after impeachment to be barred from holding public office again. It is optional and it is included in the impeachment articles passed by the House. In fact, blocking Trump from running in 2024 is the only reason Pelosi is pushing for conviction.

Not the ONLY reason. Just A reason. She's doing this for the stage and because she's a vindictive, vainglorious (b)witch as are most all Democrats.

 

[jamil]

Not the ONLY reason. Just A reason. She's doing this for the stage and because she's a vindictive, vainglorious (b)witch as are most all Democrats.

I think one could say that baring Trump from running again is the only practical reason. But, the main purpose, isn't a practical reason. It's because she's a ****ing bitch, and she can't stand Trump. I mean, why else would you have commemorative pens made up for signing the first articles of impeachment? How ****ing petty can a person be?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not the ONLY reason. Just A reason. She's doing this for the stage and because she's a vindictive, vainglorious (b)witch as are most all Democrats.

So yeah, trying to figure out if you excluded Republicans, on purpose, or if you honestly think they aren’t just as guilty.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So yeah, trying to figure out if you excluded Republicans, on purpose, or if you honestly think they aren’t just as guilty.

"Guilty"? Yes.

"Just as", not by a long shot, though the criminal, violent assault getting into the Capitol was a down payment in getting there.

Coordinated violent assaults on federal facilities to halt the legitimate operation of the US government happened many, many times over the summer. Numerous government officials publicly gave aid and comfort though their words, actions and lack of actions. Can you say DHS?

None of the above is remotely good for the country and should be condemned by all. Prosecuted.

Allow the goose to do it with impunity, the gander will follow suit.

 

[Kutnupe14]

"Guilty"? Yes.

"Just as", not by a long shot, though the criminal, violent assault getting into the Capitol was a down payment in getting there.

Coordinated violent assaults on federal facilities to halt the legitimate operation of the US government happened many, many times over the summer. Numerous government officials publicly gave aid and comfort though their words, actions and lack of actions. Can you say DHS?

None of the above is remotely good for the country and should be condemned by all. Prosecuted.

Allow the goose to do it with impunity, the gander will follow suit.

Anybody that riots, should arrested and prosecuted. No one should get a pass.

 

[ChazL]

"Guilty"? Yes.

"Just as", not by a long shot, though the criminal, violent assault getting into the Capitol was a down payment in getting there.

Coordinated violent assaults on federal facilities to halt the legitimate operation of the US government happened many, many times over the summer. Numerous government officials publicly gave aid and comfort though their words, actions and lack of actions. Can you say DHS?

None of the above is remotely good for the country and should be condemned by all. Prosecuted.

Allow the goose to do it with impunity, the gander will follow suit.

I totally agree with you, SheepDog

 

[Doug]

Anybody that riots, should arrested and prosecuted. No one should get a pass.

So, are the rioters from the summer not being prosecuted or is the media just not reporting it?

 

[foszoe]

So, are the rioters from the summer not being prosecuted or is the media just not reporting it?

DC police made five times as many arrests during BLM protests than Capitol riot

More than 300 Black Lives Matter protesters were arrested on June 1, compared to 61 "unrest related" arrests at the Capitol riot Wednesday.

thegrio.com

Tracking federal and non-federal cases related to Summer-Fall protests, riots, & uprisings - the Prosecution Project

Latest update: December 29, 2022 Original post: July 1, 2020 Since the murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020 by Minneapolis police and the resulting waves of protests nationwide, tPP has fielded many requests to help provide a count of resulting felony cases. The early summer protests, riots...

theprosecutionproject.org

 

[buckwacker]

DC police made five times as many arrests during BLM protests than Capitol riot

More than 300 Black Lives Matter protesters were arrested on June 1, compared to 61 "unrest related" arrests at the Capitol riot Wednesday.

thegrio.com

Tracking federal and non-federal cases related to Summer-Fall protests, riots, & uprisings - the Prosecution Project

Latest update: December 29, 2022 Original post: July 1, 2020 Since the murder of George Floyd on May 25, 2020 by Minneapolis police and the resulting waves of protests nationwide, tPP has fielded many requests to help provide a count of resulting felony cases. The early summer protests, riots...

theprosecutionproject.org

To make this as a close as possible to an apples to apples comparison, you'll need to look at arrest AND prosecution data from the firsr blm riots, not after a week of them. We've had exactly one Trump riot not dozens.

 

[phylodog]

To make this as a close as possible to an apples to apples comparison, you'll need to look at arrest AND prosecution data from the firsr blm riots, not after a week of them. We've had exactly one Trump riot not dozens.

Oh come on Man, how are we supposed to keep up the victim based society if you want to apply equal standards to everyone? I think that's racist or something.

 

[sparky32]

Yeah and what happened this summer was not called domestic terrorism even tho it sure as hell was.

That piece of **** soon to be vice president was paying for bail for the mostly peaceful domestic terrorist this summer and now they want unity???? Man I would love to see media if a conservative bailed out those people at the capital.

Politics are different so that means the slap on the wrist is not worthy now like this summer???

 

[foszoe]

To make this as a close as possible to an apples to apples comparison, you'll need to look at arrest AND prosecution data from the firsr blm riots, not after a week of them. We've had exactly one Trump riot not dozens.

Not making an apples to apples comparison so much as pushing back against the narrative that BLM is getting off scot free.

However, if you look at the second link, you can download a CSV file that shows ongoing cases.

Keeping track: Over 50 people facing felony charges in vandalism, looting, violence during protests

The Madison protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis ranged from peaceful to destructive since they started the night of May 30. Since then, Madison

madison.com

I have a feeling Trump protests/riots are just getting started.

 

[foszoe]

Yeah and what happened this summer was not called domestic terrorism even tho it sure as hell was.

That piece of **** soon to be vice president was paying for bail for the mostly peaceful domestic terrorist this summer and now they want unity???? Man I would love to see media if a conservative bailed out those people at the capital.

Hundreds of Domestic Terrorism Investigations Opened Since Start of George Floyd Protests, Official Says

Senate Judiciary Committee told the FBI opened first of more than 300 investigations within three days of Floyd’s death that sparked nationwide protests

www.voanews.com

 

[sparky32]

Hundreds of Domestic Terrorism Investigations Opened Since Start of George Floyd Protests, Official Says

Senate Judiciary Committee told the FBI opened first of more than 300 investigations within three days of Floyd’s death that sparked nationwide protests

www.voanews.com

Whats voa news? How many pages of google did it take to get through to find that?

Never heard of it. What about the news 99% of America watches? CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN?

Did not hear anything from them?

 

[buckwacker]

Not making an apples to apples comparison so much as pushing back against the narrative that BLM is getting off scot free.

However, if you look at the second link, you can download a CSV file that shows ongoing cases.

Keeping track: Over 50 people facing felony charges in vandalism, looting, violence during protests

The Madison protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis ranged from peaceful to destructive since they started the night of May 30. Since then, Madison

madison.com

I have a feeling Trump protests/riots are just getting started.

But you're still comparing 100s or 1000s of blm riots to one Trump riot. It's not possible to do these comparisons.

 

[mmpsteve]

And honestly it's been surprisingly successful/

Surprisingly successful? The man lasted more than 4 years pitted against the most powerful institutions this country has to offer. Dems, RINOs, FBI, CIA, IRS, just about every other alphabet agency, most career bureaucrats, the MSM, Big Tech, etc ...

Surprisingly successful? That's almost laughable, even for you.

As an American, I'm a little concerned at the effectiveness of all these institutions if faced with a real existential threat.

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[phylodog]

Surprisingly successful? The man lasted more than 4 years pitted against the most powerful institutions this country has to offer. Dems, RINOs, FBI, CIA, IRS, just about every other alphabet agency, most career bureaucrats, the MSM, Big Tech, etc ...

Surprisingly successful? That's almost laughable, even for you.

As an American, I'm a little concerned at the effectiveness of all these institutions if faced with a real existential threat.

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You forgot about China and Russia, they're the BFF's of the modern day democrat party.