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  • defaultdotxbe

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    And someone would have to go through the law, but many bans like this allow selling off EXISTING inventory.
    Section (C), below

    The provisions of this Section do not apply to the manufacture, delivery, sale, import, purchase, or possession of an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge or causing the manufacture, delivery, sale, importation, purchase, or possession of those items: (A) for sale or transfer to persons authorized under subdivisions (1) through (7) of this subsection (e) to possess those items; (B) for sale or transfer to the United States or any department or agency thereof; or (C) for sale or transfer in another state or for export.

    The way I read an FFL could even continue to buy new inventory, provided it is intended for sale out of state (or for sale to exempted parties like law enforcement)
     

    gassprint1

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    Attorneys differ on whether challenges to Illinois’ gun ban should be consolidated​


    Guess they just aren't thinking..3 cases, 3 outcomes with different wording or such. Maybe win 2 an lose 1 compared to a single outcome which could be lost on stipulations from a single case law.
     

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    Guess they just aren't thinking..3 cases, 3 outcomes with different wording or such. Maybe win 2 an lose 1 compared to a single outcome which could be lost on stipulations from a single case law.
    If the one that gets to the Illinois Supreme Court first loses, the court will refuse to hear any more. It will be considered settled and they'll be done in the Illinois courts. They need to ensure the one that does get there has the best chance of winning -- or consolidate some or all of them.
     

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    If the one that gets to the Illinois Supreme Court first loses, the court will refuse to hear any more. It will be considered settled and they'll be done in the Illinois courts. They need to ensure the one that does get there has the best chance of winning -- or consolidate some or all of them.
    Not necessarily, IIRC the Devore case(s) are challenging based on the procedure the assembly used to pass the law, and another case is challenging based on IL's equal protection clause. If one loses the IL Supreme Court could still hear the other one on its merits.

    I'm not sure if different grounds for challenging cuts for or against consolidating.
     

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    If the one that gets to the Illinois Supreme Court first loses, the court will refuse to hear any more. It will be considered settled and they'll be done in the Illinois courts. They need to ensure the one that does get there has the best chance of winning -- or consolidate some or all of them.
    What i understood, was that atleast 2 of the 3 cases involved different things.
     

    actaeon277

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    Illinois’ gun ban addresses ‘episodic massacres,’ state argues in defense of law​


    Not really.
    It doesn't really.

    Most, or even all, of the gun laws don't really address anything to fix the problem.
    It's just 'we have to do .... SOMETHING.
     

    JAL

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    Brief just filed by Illinois Attorney General in the Federal District Court in Southern Illinois regarding the four consolidated challenges to the weapons and magazine bans to justify them . . .

    Four Boxes Diners can be verbose, but he covers things comprehensively -- ripping the Illinois filing to shreds. It's yet another attempt to heave gallons of pasta against the wall in hopes something will stick. Note that the judge warned Illinois he didn't want to be buried by reams of paper . . . Illinois has dumped over 1500 pages on him. Certainly not a way to win friends and influence people. I predict he will be much stricter like Benitez in California in the future.

     
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    The Mayor and the Governor and their minions all push this agenda even though time and again history shows these anti 2A laws simply do not work.

    The simple fact that they appear unable to grasp is that criminals don't obey laws.

    A more effective and equitable way to solve the problem would be to simply outlaw murder and carjacking.
     

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    Even after this ban is overturned, anti-gunners don't care, they'll just pass something else that has to be dragged through the courts. Overturn this law? Ok, pass another. That got overturned? Ok, pass something else. Rinse and repeat. They'll make the pro-2A community empty out their wallets by means of the judicial process. I've noticed this post-Bruen tactic being used more and more frequently. We see this playing out right now in Columbus Ohio and their flipping the bird at their state's preemption law.
     

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