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  • daddyusmaximus

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    Taking the wife up to the Horseshoe Casino to see Jeff Dunham here in a few days.
    Anyone been there can tell me what kind of set up they have checking people out when they come in?
     

    Cameramonkey

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    Taking the wife up to the Horseshoe Casino to see Jeff Dunham here in a few days.
    Anyone been there can tell me what kind of set up they have checking people out when they come in?
    Its my understanding that casinos are lawful GFZs. The good news is casinos are setup for this. They have the procedures in place for you to check your firearm at the door and have it secured while you are on the property.

    I wouldnt try to by pass this as you wont be escorted out, but arrested.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Its my understanding that casinos are lawful GFZs. The good news is casinos are setup for this. They have the procedures in place for you to check your firearm at the door and have it secured while you are on the property.

    I wouldnt try to by pass this as you wont be escorted out, but arrested.
    IANAL Shouldn't be arrested, there is no arrest clause for carrying in a casino. It's an administrative rule. Here it is.
    INDIANA GAMING COMMISSION

    Rule 7. Weapons
    68 IAC 1-7-1 Weapons in the casino
    Authority: IC 4-33-4; IC 4-35-4
    Affected: IC 4-33-8; IC 4-35-6.5; IC 35-41-1-17
    Sec. 1. (a) The following definitions apply throughout this rule:

    (c) The casino licensee shall post a sign in a prominent place at the point of passenger ingress stating, "No weapons are allowed
    beyond this point. Failure to comply with this rule may result in immediate removal from the casino, immediate detention by security
    personnel, the imposition of civil penalties, or exclusion under applicable law.".

    I can't find anything in the IC that would allow for civil penalties. From what I can find the most they can do is kick you out and forbid you from going to any casino under their authority.

    Under the IAC they are required to provide storage, but the commissioner of the Gaming commision issued a letter saying that they are not required to. I'll see if I can find it.

    It also matters if the show is in the casino itself or just on the property. The firearm prohibition only applies inside the casino proper.


    To the OP, sorry have no idea on security measures for events there.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Thanks for the correction.
    No problem. It's been discussed a few times on here. And I found the thread with the letter from the Gaming commission. Since they no longer have to sail, they no longer have to have lock boxes since you can just take it to your car...
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    I was just wanting to know a head of time to avoid having to walk back to the vehicle...

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    I know that, and you know that, and everyone else knows that. But this is INGO, do you expect it to stay at that? I'm surprised it hasn't already devolved into which casino buffet has the best bacon and/or which has the abomination known as pineapple pizza. Speaking of which...
     

    Bigtanker

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    FYI. If you venture over to 4 Winds in South Bend or New Buffalo it is Native American owned. Firearms are not even allowed on the property.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    FYI. If you venture over to 4 Winds in South Bend or New Buffalo it is Native American owned. Firearms are not even allowed on the property.
    I'm not saying you're wrong, but do you have a cite for that? Best I can find if you are licensed to carry it's okay. Perhaps not in the casino but on tribal lands. 4 Winds is Pokagon tribe if I'm right. Here is a link to the code. It starts at the bottom of pg 54 of the pdf.
     

    Bigtanker

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    I'm not saying you're wrong, but do you have a cite for that? Best I can find if you are licensed to carry it's okay. Perhaps not in the casino but on tribal lands. 4 Winds is Pokagon tribe if I'm right. Here is a link to the code. It starts at the bottom of pg 54 of the pdf.
    I can find the info that was published when the casino opened in South Bend. It was a big deal in the news around here.

    Let me see if I can dig up my source.
     

    Bigtanker

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    Here's the thread about it.

     

    Timjoebillybob

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    Here's the thread about it.

    Thanks much for the link. A few things, tribal criminal law doesn't apply to non Indians except for a few very limited circumstances such as dating/domestic violence when one of the parties is a tribal member and it occurs on tribal land. And tribal civil law has quite a few limitations as well when applied to non Indians. The one problem is you have to fight civil jurisdictional challenges in tribal courts first, if you lose you can then take it to state/federal court. They do have more authority/jurisdiction over non member Indians but still not as much as member Indians.
     

    MrSmitty

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    Last time I was at the Horseshoe, they had lockers for your guns, they give you a receipt, or a chit and you get it back when you leave. This is of course the casino it's self, not sure about concert venue....
     

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    I don't believe that there are any metal detectors at the entrance to the Horseshoe Casino. GFZ's obviously are a high risk area, but casino's have a pretty safe track record other than the occasional smash and grab.
     

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    I don't believe that there are any metal detectors at the entrance to the Horseshoe Casino. GFZ's obviously are a high risk area, but casino's have a pretty safe track record other than the occasional smash and grab.
    We must keep in mind that carrying a firearm into a Casino is against the Indiana Code; though I do believe it's the Indiana Administrative Code vs. criminal code. i'm not a lawyer. don't quote me on that.

    The potential exists for some real-world unpleasantness to come out of the situation should you be discovered.
     

    littletommy

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    I’ve carried at shows at horseshoe southern Indiana, but the auditorium is separate from the casino, so it was perfectly legal. I always laugh when they search my wifes purse and wave me on through the line.

    I’ve also used the lock boxes before entering the casino itself, never had an issue with the security people while doing so.
     

    DRob

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    Several years ago, I took a pistol into IN Grand casino just to learn their procedure. They copied my DL and LTCH and locked the pistol in a small locker just inside the garage entrance. They allowed me to bring in the gun to be locked up but not the ammo. Had to take ammo back to my truck. When I left, they had to call a supervisor to open the locker. Yesterday, 9/23, I was at IN Grand and, though I wasn't carrying, I asked if the procedure was still the same. It is not! You now have to leave your gun in your vehicle.
     

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