Here come the Biden gun control EOs...

[BigRed]

That was your mulligan you know.

Man we are all really pissed but stop making work for me damnit.

Be more like BigRed!

 

[churchmouse]

Be more like BigRed!

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Uh......no lets not OK.......

 

[DadSmith]

White House: Biden Will Not Wait on Congress, Using DOJ for Gun Control

Joe Biden to use the DOJ to publish model red flag "legislation," address AR-pistols with stabilizer braces, and push other gun controls.

www.breitbart.com

 

[maxwelhse]

So, this video (if accurate):



Is a bit different than what was originally stated upstream.

As alleged:

-Directing the DOJ to work on rules to ban "ghost guns" in 30 days. We won't know how until 30 days from now. I imagine it will be what I already think is going to happen.
-Direct DOJ to get pistol braces banned within 60 days. Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.
-Develop red flag legislation federally within 60 days. Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.
-Call on DOJ to issue firearms trafficking reports (why wouldn't they do this now?) - Sounds like another nothing EO.
-Call on congress to close background check "loopholes". Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.

Sounds like those are the heavy hitters for tomorrow and they're all nothing at this point. A bunch of "directing". Obama did all the same crap, and so did Trump really.

 

[BigRed]

Uh......no lets not OK.......

LOL!

 

[BigRed]

So, this video (if accurate):



Is a bit different than what was originally stated upstream.

As alleged:

-Directing the DOJ to work on rules to ban "ghost guns" in 30 days. We won't know how until 30 days from now. I imagine it will be what I already think is going to happen.
-Direct DOJ to get pistol braces banned within 60 days. Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.
-Develop red flag legislation federally within 60 days. Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.
-Call on DOJ to issue firearms trafficking reports (why wouldn't they do this now?) - Sounds like another nothing EO.
-Call on congress to close background check "loopholes". Already their stated agenda. A nothing EO.

Sounds like those are the heavy hitters for tomorrow and they're all nothing at this point. A bunch of "directing". Obama did all the same crap, and so did Trump really.

We shall see if they are as impotent as Joe himself.

Slippery slope....at least as slippery as a staircase to a plane.

 

[maxwelhse]

We shall see if they are as impotent as Joe himself.

Slippery slope....at least as slippery as a staircase to a plane.

EOs directing people to do what they already said they were going to do is just a dog and pony show for the press. This is nothing. The product of it could become something, but we already knew that.

 

[jsx1043]

White House: Biden Will Not Wait on Congress, Using DOJ for Gun Control

Joe Biden to use the DOJ to publish model red flag "legislation," address AR-pistols with stabilizer braces, and push other gun controls.

www.breitbart.com

The White House explained that the DOJ will also begin “[issuing] an annual report on firearms trafficking.”

Is it going to be retroactive to include Fast and Furious?

 

[d.kaufman]

And the idiocy begins on the news of EOs on "ghost guns"

AR-15 80% Lower, Jig and Tools

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www.armslist.com

 

[maxwelhse]

The White House explained that the DOJ will also begin “[issuing] an annual report on firearms trafficking.”

Is it going to be retroactive to include Fast and Furious?

That wasn't "trafficking". Those guns were "walking".

 

[NoGoJoe]

Shouldn't but I'm not taking any cash bets. I woukd point out yhat if this flies, then there is no reason why a block of steel, aluminum, or polymer cannot be classified as a firearm.

He can "encourage" his new ATF head to reclassify 80% to be considered a firearm.

 

[NoGoJoe]

And the idiocy begins on the news of EOs on "ghost guns"

AR-15 80% Lower, Jig and Tools

ALL UNUSED AND COMPLETELY NEW IN ORIGINAL PACKAGING!<br /><br />All from 80% Lowers (www.80-Lower.com)<br /><br />(1) Premium 80% lower fire/safe marked billet.<br /><br /> For AR-15 builds (5.56/.223/300 BLK/6.5 Grendel) <br /> Type III Hard Anodized Billet <br /> Color: Anodized...

www.armslist.com

That hilarious, sadly they might actually get a buyer.

 

[BigRed]

He can "encourage" his new ATF head to reclassify 80% to be considered a firearm.

 

[maxwelhse]

He can "encourage" his new ATF head to reclassify 80% to be considered a firearm.

He can, but then the have to reclassify what a firearm is and that's going to be a monster can of worms. If it gets much less than an 80%, then an iron pipe is a firearm and Home Depot and Lowes are the biggest arms dealers in the world.

Gonna be fun to watch this play out.

 

[2in1evtime]

They're not firearms. This EO doesn't effect them. Once they become firearms then they're subject to NICS just like they already were.

I took it to mean that all 80% lowers will have a serial # so they can be called in? But for all those sold before the dictators EO will they be g'fathered in or have to be serialized and reported?

 

[Bennettjh]

At least no mean tweets or "racism". Remember they were voting "against" Trump, not for Biden. So that makes it ok!

I'll just leave it there.

 

[maxwelhse]

I took it to mean that all 80% lowers will have a serial # so they can be called in? But for all those sold before the dictators EO will they be g'fathered in or have to be serialized and reported?

But 80%s aren't firearms. Are we going to serialize black iron pipe too? Hummm...

Grandfathering hasn't been too terribly popular the last 5 or 6 years so I don't think that's the plan either. I think their honest plan now that more details have come to light is to try to outright ban 80%s in any condition (80%, 81%, or 100%). I think they're going to find out immediately that pretty much isn't possible, so we'll end up with some milquetoast nonsense like all firearms need a serial number to be transferred. Then the C&R community is going to lose their minds because heaps of historical guns aren't serialized. Then they'll dial it off into even more nothingness of utility to pretty much anyone.

That's not a perfect calibration of my crystal ball, but I suspect that basically nonsense, or lawsuits, will come out of it.

 

[actaeon277]

Assuming the SC will do its job for a change. Its pretty pathetic.

Yup. Plenty of states banning them, and nothing is done.

 

[Bennettjh]

Assuming the SC will do its job for a change. Its pretty pathetic.

The way the SCOTUS is going, Joe won't need to pack it.

 

[Hohn]

I thought that the constitution limits the federal government to controlling commerce between the states, not within. So if a company makes firearms and sells them everywhere it can be controlled but if an individual makes it for himself without selling it out of state, the feds shouldnt have anything do say on the matter.

Your first mistake was thinking that our constitution actually limits government. Present jurisprudence is more along the lines of how Ed Harris’ federal agent character described his power to Tom Cruise’s Mitch Mcdeere: