Hearing sirens? Finding out why could get harder as Central Indiana police encrypt radios

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Hearing sirens? Finding out why could get harder as Central Indiana police encrypt radios

Residents used to getting real-time crime information from scanner apps could be left in the dark as Central Indiana police encrypt feeds.

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Hearing sirens? Finding out why could get harder as Central Indiana police encrypt radios

Residents used to getting real-time crime information from scanner apps could be left in the dark as Central Indiana police encrypt feeds.

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Crime apps could go dark as police encrypt feeds

Wen Gutreuter considers herself a safety-conscious resident who likes

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[Mij]

Hearing sirens? Finding out why could get harder as Central Indiana police encrypt radios

Residents used to getting real-time crime information from scanner apps could be left in the dark as Central Indiana police encrypt feeds.

finance.yahoo.com

Hearing sirens? Finding out why could get harder as Central Indiana police encrypt radios

Residents used to getting real-time crime information from scanner apps could be left in the dark as Central Indiana police encrypt feeds.

www.indystar.com

Crime apps could go dark as police encrypt feeds

Wen Gutreuter considers herself a safety-conscious resident who likes

heraldtimesonline-in.newsmemory.com

I can see both sides of this predicament. But secret police has bad news written all over it. Especially when the police want to monitor everything I transmit. JMO

Police being the .gov.

 

[Trigger Time]

They use encrypted tactical channels anyways for anything useful.

 

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I can see both sides of this predicament. But secret police has bad news written all over it. Especially when the police want to monitor everything I transmit. JMO

Police being the .gov.

It'd be interesting to know what the average LEO thinks of this vs those in admin, who often seem to have an agenda?


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[Mij]

It'd be interesting to know what the average LEO thinks of this vs those in admin, who often seem to have an agenda?


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Same here. But ”average” is a hard thing to pin down. If you have a 50/50 of uniform and street clothing officers it might be a push.

My thinking is if they can hear me I should be able to hear them. But that horse left the gate in the 80’s.

If we could only make the assumption that “all LEO” were moral people it would be an easier judgment, but we all know that is not the case. As much as we all wish it was. It now becomes a question of who’s morality are we going to use as a base for our judgment. It’s a tuff call no matter where you stand.

 

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Same here. But ”average” is a hard thing to pin down. If you have a 50/50 of uniform and street clothing officers it might be a push.

My thinking is if they can hear me I should be able to hear them. But that horse left the gate in the 80’s.

If we could only make the assumption that “all LEO” were moral people it would be an easier judgment, but we all know that is not the case. As much as we all wish it was. It now becomes a question of who’s morality are we going to use as a base for our judgment. It’s a tuff call no matter where you stand.

With all due respect my friend, we might just get some INGO officer participation, as long as we a careful not to let this thread turn into another cop bashing one. Just sayin'...

 

[Mij]

With all due respect my friend, we might just get some INGO officer participation, as long as we a careful not to let this thread turn into another cop bashing one. Just sayin'...

Well aware, they have nothing to be angry with me about. I’ve got nothing but respect for them, and I’m thinking they may feel the same as I. They know better than I who the bad apples are. After all they are a subsection of America, and math doesn’t lie. If they were all Serpico we wouldn’t have had a great movie. I’ll be the last person on here to bash any govt. official no matter the branch or party. My postings are open for all to review you will never find me bashing any one. I may disagree with some, but I’ll keep it to myself. I was taught to respect the rank/office, not the man. Drill Sgt. Gilroy 1968.

 

[Route 45]

The best solution is probably to have all general patrol traffic unencrypted. That's the information that's most useful to the public, anyway. Any confidential information or tactical traffic can be run on encrypted channels. Seems like a reasonable compromise between public awareness, personal ID information confidentiality and officer safety.

 

[Tryin']

In 8 years, I've never listened to anything
a non-cop transmitted not affiliated with a government entity while performing my duties. I'm not sure where that idea comes from. Different experiences, I suppose.

Outside of the "tac" stuff, my main concern is address info, identifying info, phone numbers, and other details being broadcast on open channels. Even mundane calls are a treasure trove of potential fraud info. Got pulled over? Prepare to have your full name, DOB, DL number, plate number, vehicle description, and possibly your address put over the air. I don't like it, from either side of the badge. Encrypt it all.

Most places don't have the resources to have dedicated NCIC/BMV channels, and it comes with another set of problems anyway.

 

[Ingomike]

In 8 years, I've never listened to anything a non-cop transmitted while performing my duties. I'm not sure where that idea comes from. Different experiences, I suppose.

Outside of the "tac" stuff, my main concern is address info, identifying info, phone numbers, and other details being broadcast on open channels. Even mundane calls are a treasure trove of potential fraud info. Got pulled over? Prepare to have your full name, DOB, DL number, plate number, vehicle description, and possibly your address put over the air. I don't like it, from either side of the badge. Encrypt it all.

Most places don't have the resources to have dedicated NCIC/BMV channels, and it comes with another set of problems anyway.

Well thought out post. Thanks

 

[Cameramonkey]

In 8 years, I've never listened to anything a non-cop transmitted while performing my duties. I'm not sure where that idea comes from. Different experiences, I suppose.

Outside of the "tac" stuff, my main concern is address info, identifying info, phone numbers, and other details being broadcast on open channels. Even mundane calls are a treasure trove of potential fraud info. Got pulled over? Prepare to have your full name, DOB, DL number, plate number, vehicle description, and possibly your address put over the air. I don't like it, from either side of the badge. Encrypt it all.

Most places don't have the resources to have dedicated NCIC/BMV channels, and it comes with another set of problems anyway.

To be fair, they arent worried about YOU. They are concerned with feds and spooks listening. He's lumping you in with big brother in this case.

 

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In 8 years, I've never listened to anything a non-cop transmitted while performing my duties. I'm not sure where that idea comes from. Different experiences, I suppose.

Outside of the "tac" stuff, my main concern is address info, identifying info, phone numbers, and other details being broadcast on open channels. Even mundane calls are a treasure trove of potential fraud info. Got pulled over? Prepare to have your full name, DOB, DL number, plate number, vehicle description, and possibly your address put over the air. I don't like it, from either side of the badge. Encrypt it all.

Most places don't have the resources to have dedicated NCIC/BMV channels, and it comes with another set of problems anyway.

Thank you for your professional ! (As always.)

As a loooong time scanner radio, (now app,) listener rubbernecker I'm disappointed with the encryption idea.

I had no idea that folks are frauded by details spoken of on the scanner radio channels. I have noticed that over the years the local agencies are quite guarded about using names over the air, other than the rare suspect confirmations between officers.

 

[Tryin']

To be fair, they arent worried about YOU. They are concerned with feds and spooks listening. He's lumping you in with big brother in this case.

Ah. Can't speak to that.

 

[Tryin']

Thank you for your professional ! (As always.)

As a loooong time scanner radio, (now app,) listener rubbernecker I'm disappointed with the encryption idea.

I had no idea that folks are frauded by details spoken of on the scanner radio channels. I have noticed that over the years the local agencies are quite guarded about using names over the air, other than the rare suspect confirmations between officers.

That is probably a regional thing. Everything here is open channels except for scheduled tac operations. Sounds like you folks might have a "headquarters" channel where identifiers are run. We used to, but things changed. Various reasons.

 

[dieselrealtor]

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get your decoder pens out

 

[Cameramonkey]

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get your decoder pens out

not a chance. Last time I was just reminded to drink my damn Ovaltine.

 

[dieselrealtor]

a crummy commercial?

 

[Cameramonkey]

a crummy commercial?

sonofa...

 

[Mij]

In 8 years, I've never listened to anything a non-cop transmitted while performing my duties. I'm not sure where that idea comes from. Different experiences, I suppose.

Outside of the "tac" stuff, my main concern is address info, identifying info, phone numbers, and other details being broadcast on open channels. Even mundane calls are a treasure trove of potential fraud info. Got pulled over? Prepare to have your full name, DOB, DL number, plate number, vehicle description, and possibly your address put over the air. I don't like it, from either side of the badge. Encrypt it all.

Most places don't have the resources to have dedicated NCIC/BMV channels, and it comes with another set of problems anyway.

The radios in my commission worked on State, Local police, INDOT, State Prisons, local fire freqs. Even heard a couple hot air balloons one time. Our radios were programmed by Ra-Comm in Lafayette.

ETA: Most time my communications were with Traffic control center North n Traffic control center South. Or me to responding State officer.

ETA X 2: That was ~ 15 yrs. ago I think that was TMC North n TMC South.

 

[Mij]