Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

[Timjoebillybob]

Listening to the tape many, many times over, I don't think there's any way to determine what he said now. He absolutely did say "I ate too much..." though.

And now apparently some type of drug called "speed balls" was found in the back of the officer's car with Floyd's DNA on it.
After his dealer refused to testify out of fear of potential murder charges, I'm starting to think he may have got layed out with some nasty laced stuff by his dealer. The same individual is also responsible for the forged $20.

I've listened to the tape several times, I can't honestly tell if he was saying "I ate too much drugs" or "I didn't take no drugs" or possibly something different.

And a "speedball" isn't a type of drug, it's a mix of drugs. Back in the 80-90s and possibly before and after it was a mix of heroin or other opiate and cocaine. Now it seems to be an opiate and meth.

 

[nonobaddog]

People don't typically say they "ate" drugs, they "took" drugs or "did" drugs but not typically "ate".

 

[MCgrease08]

People don't typically say they "ate" drugs, they "took" drugs or "did" drugs but not typically "ate".

That completely depends on the drug. I've heard people say they "ate a bunch of drugs" probably dozens of times. Ex: "Oh man, remember the first time we went to Bonnarroo and Billy ate a bunch of drugs and tried to **** into the campfire but kept burning his ***?"

Using the term "eat drugs" is pretty common, especially if you're talking pills, psychedelics or edible cannabis.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

People don't typically say they "ate" drugs, they "took" drugs or "did" drugs but not typically "ate".

Well, if he was "hooping" as I thought I had read earlier, that's an odd thing to refer to as "eating".

 

[T.Lex]

Is there anything he could've said that would have changed his predicament?

Personally, once he was taken to the ground, the die had been cast.

 

[nonobaddog]

That completely depends on the drug. I've heard people say they "ate a bunch of drugs" probably dozens of times. Ex: "Oh man, remember the first time we went to Bonnarroo and Billy ate a bunch of drugs and tried to **** into the campfire but kept burning his ***?"

Using the term "eat drugs" is pretty common, especially if you're talking pills, psychedelics or edible cannabis.

OK, I stand corrected. I haven't been around the drug scene for several decades now.

 

[nonobaddog]

Well, if he was "hooping" as I thought I had read earlier, that's an odd thing to refer to as "eating".

Maybe he is a South Park fan.

 

[KLB]

Is there anything he could've said that would have changed his predicament?

Personally, once he was taken to the ground, the die had been cast.

He could have complied from the beginning.

It looks like the last two days of testimony were not good for the prosecution.

 

[T.Lex]

He could have complied from the beginning.

Sure, but when he was taken to the ground, IMHO, is where it didn't matter what he said or did. At that point, he became completely unable to influence what was going to happen. The officers' decisions were all that mattered.

It looks like the last two days of testimony were not good for the prosecution.

I dunno - they're hitting the points they need to hit.

No trial is perfect.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Well, if he was "hooping" as I thought I had read earlier, that's an odd thing to refer to as "eating".

When the officer was asking him about drugs, he said he didn't do any, the officer then stated he had white foam around his mouth(common indication of some drug use from what I understand), he then replied "I've been hooping". I'm going to go out on a limb and say that since he was denying using drugs at the time and continued to deny using them after he said that and since there was nothing in the coroners report about finding any inside him(other than blood/urine), he was referring to playing basketball, rather than using his rectum to attempt to smuggle them.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

When the officer was asking him about drugs, he said he didn't do any, the officer then stated he had white foam around his mouth(common indication of some drug use from what I understand), he then replied "I've been hooping". I'm going to go out on a limb and say that since he was denying using drugs at the time and continued to deny using them after he said that and since there was nothing in the coroners report about finding any inside him, he was referring to playing basketball, rather than using his rectum to attempt to smuggle them.

Hooping isn't an attempt to smuggle them.

"They also saw foam coming from Floyd’s mouth, which he explained by saying he had been “hooping earlier.” Nelson, citing the online Urban Dictionary, contended that this is an admission by Floyd that he had ingested drugs rectally."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/george-floyd-fentanyl/2021/03/10/c3d4f328-76ec-11eb-9537-496158cc5fd9_story.html

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Hooping isn't an attempt to smuggle them.

"They also saw foam coming from Floyd’s mouth, which he explained by saying he had been “hooping earlier.” Nelson, citing the online Urban Dictionary, contended that this is an admission by Floyd that he had ingested drugs rectally."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/george-floyd-fentanyl/2021/03/10/c3d4f328-76ec-11eb-9537-496158cc5fd9_story.html

It's one of the definitions, well actually it's 3 out of 5 of the definitions. In fact the top definition.

Urban Dictionary: Hooping

Placing an foreign item or object in your rectum in an attempt to smuggle it into a location.

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not a good day for the defense. Not at all.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Hooping isn't an attempt to smuggle them.

"They also saw foam coming from Floyd’s mouth, which he explained by saying he had been “hooping earlier.” Nelson, citing the online Urban Dictionary, contended that this is an admission by Floyd that he had ingested drugs rectally."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/george-floyd-fentanyl/2021/03/10/c3d4f328-76ec-11eb-9537-496158cc5fd9_story.html

Did you see the toxicology breakdown? It just happened. you might want to take a look.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Did you see the toxicology breakdown? It just happened. you might want to take a look.

Not seeing anything new in my search. Everything I'm coming up with refers to a fatal level of fentanyl in his system.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Not seeing anything new in my search. Everything I'm coming up with refers to a fatal level of fentanyl in his system.

It was about 10mins ago.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It was about 10mins ago.

I've not seen it then. Got a link?

 

[Tombs]

People don't typically say they "ate" drugs, they "took" drugs or "did" drugs but not typically "ate".

If they're trying to hide it from the cops and decide to down their whole stash... I've heard it used in that context by addicts before.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I've not seen it then. Got a link?

I watched it. Haven’t looked for a story yet.

 

[Kutnupe14]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-floyd-news-live-chauvin-trial-b1828435.html

State argues Floyd had low level of drugs in body compared even to others who lived​

After much toxicological jargon, we’ve arrived at the point.
The state is arguing, with the help of their witness Dr. Daniel Isenschmid, a forensic toxicologist, that even though evidence showed George Floyd was found to have fentanyl and meth in his body at the time of his death, it wasn’t in high amounts, compared to cases even where others stayed alive afterward.
Mr Floyd’s level of meth in his body was in the bottom 5.9 percent of people in DUI cases, Mr Isenschmid explained, and had a ratio of fentanyl in his body well below the ratio normally found in both post-mortem and DUI cases involving the drug.
A major part of the defence’s case is that Mr Floyd died from a drug overdose, rather than from the knee pressed into his neck.