Form 1 Rejected

[1nderbeard]

So I was filling out form 1 for a shockwave - sbs conversion. The eforms have model numbers based on the company manufacturer. I picked "500/590" from the drop down.
Stupid thing came back rejected for "incorrect model."

Looking over the drop down box, they've apparently added "590 shockwave" now to the list.

If I didn't have to drag my butt downtown to the state police office to get an actual paper fingerprint card I wouldn't care so much. I hate going downtown.

 

[frenchiectfd2203]

So I was filling out form 1 for a shockwave - sbs conversion. The eforms have model numbers based on the company manufacturer. I picked "500/590" from the drop down.
Stupid thing came back rejected for "incorrect model."

Looking over the drop down box, they've apparently added "590 shockwave" now to the list.

If I didn't have to drag my butt downtown to the state police office to get an actual paper fingerprint card I wouldn't care so much. I hate going downtown.

You’ll be fine, just don’t go on the east side, wait maybe it’s the south, no come to think of it I’ve seen it pushing north lately, no wait that was west.. ah, yes, you sir are screwed...

 

[IndyTim]

So I was filling out form 1 for a shockwave - sbs conversion. The eforms have model numbers based on the company manufacturer. I picked "500/590" from the drop down.
Stupid thing came back rejected for "incorrect model."

Looking over the drop down box, they've apparently added "590 shockwave" now to the list.

If I didn't have to drag my butt downtown to the state police office to get an actual paper fingerprint card I wouldn't care so much. I hate going downtown.

It’s been a while since I’ve completed a form 1. As I recall, the options in the drop-down are just previously entered by users and not the ATF. The model should come from the firearm.
So, even 590 Shockwave may be incorrect. I would take a look at what is engraved on the shotgun.

 

[Tactically Fat]

Do your own fingerprints, man... So. Much. Easier.

 

[1nderbeard]

Do your own fingerprints, man... So. Much. Easier.

if there is a next form 1 I might do that.

 

[Angrysauce]

If I didn't have to drag my butt downtown to the state police office to get an actual paper fingerprint card I wouldn't care so much. I hate going downtown.

You can do them yourself. I've always rolled my own and have yet to be rejected.

 

[1nderbeard]

You can do them yourself. I've always rolled my own and have yet to be rejected.

yeah next time I'll do that. Assuming of course we all aren't thrown in jail.

 

[1nderbeard]

So I made it downtown and kept the apt yesterday in the midst of the snow. Next question:
Does anyone use UPS instaed of USPS for fingerprints? I'm just thinking my best bet is to send via UPS, if that's possible. Last time it took USPS a week, sending overnight priority. I'm betting with the snow it will be a toss up if it makes it in the required 2 weeks.

 

[chezuki]

Do your own fingerprints, man... So. Much. Easier.

What’s the process for this? How do you get the cards?

 

[1nderbeard]

What’s the process for this? How do you get the cards?

Get the card and an ink pad and proceed. The cards are available at office stores. I've always been worried I won't do it "right" and will get rejected.

 

[chezuki]

Get the card and an ink pad and proceed. The cards are available at office stores. I've always been worried I won't do it "right" and will get rejected.

I did my own for my form 4, but the shop provided the cards. Thanks.

 

[T-DOGG]

The ATF will send you as many fingerprint cards as you want, for free. They ship them out pretty quick too.

https://www.atf.gov/distribution-center-order-form

When I sent in my fingerprints for a Form 4 SBR transfer, I thought for sure my fingerprints weren't very good, so I sent them extras just in case. It must have worked, because I had no issues getting the stamp approved.

I used this ink kit per a recommendation from others on Ingo:
Amazon.com : Lee Inkless FingerPrint Pad (S03027) : Finger Pads : Office Products

 

[KokomoDave]

The website kept flickering but I believe that I got them ordered. Thanks!

 

[sloppyjoe]

The ATF will send you as many fingerprint cards as you want, for free. They ship them out pretty quick too.

https://www.atf.gov/distribution-center-order-form

When I sent in my fingerprints for a Form 4 SBR transfer, I thought for sure my fingerprints weren't very good, so I sent them extras just in case. It must have worked, because I had no issues getting the stamp approved.

I used this ink kit per a recommendation from others on Ingo:
Amazon.com : Lee Inkless FingerPrint Pad (S03027) : Finger Pads : Office Products

I was going to recommend this as well. Took about 6 weeks to get my cards from the ATF, but now I should have enough cards for life unless they change the format.

 

[dieselmudder]

I went ahead and ordered some cards, even though I don't plan to use them anytime soon.

Now, about that passport picture. Is there a DIY option for that as well?

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[T-DOGG]

I went ahead and ordered some cards, even though I don't plan to use them anytime soon.

Now, about that passport picture. Is there a DIY option for that as well?

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I stood against a plain, light colored wall, with nothing in the background. Made sure we had good lighting. Had my wife use my smartphone to take the picture. Got onto Walgreens website and loaded the picture online, ordered pictures and picked up locally. I believe I got the size just a tad larger and cut them down to meet the passport photo size ( don't remember the measurement off hand ). It was very easy and the pictures were super cheap from Walgreens (less than $10, maybe even less than $5 ??).

 

[Angrysauce]

What’s the process for this? How do you get the cards?

Nationalguntrust.com ships fast and you can get the ink pad too

 

[Tactically Fat]

About photos...

If you go to a place that takes passport photos, they'll gouge you on them.

If you go to a place that takes passport photos and ask if they'll take non-passport ID photos, they may very well charge you a lot less. it doesn't hurt to ask. And go when they're not busy... And be polite and well spoken. If they ask why they're needed "For a government background check". 100% truth.

2" x 2" is the size they're supposed to be. Printed on photo stock and not on regular paper for the DIY'ers.

Once you get one photo taken, get SEVERAL copies. Like more than you think you'll need.

Get more finger print cards than you think you'll need, too. Practice a few times. Get a buddy or a spouse to assist in rolling your prints correctly, it'll be easier. That said, it's not too terribly hard to do it alone.

You can get hobby-type ink pads at like Michaels or Hobby Lobby. I'm not sure where mine came from. I know that I didn't find an ink pad at one of those stores and did at the other. Was an easy walk betwixt them on Indy's south side. And you can find way better systems on Amazon, too. Things with a higher quality ink pad and a little jig to hold the cards in place while you're doing it.

 

[Old Boolet]

I went ahead and ordered some cards, even though I don't plan to use them anytime soon.

Now, about that passport picture. Is there a DIY option for that as well?

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Got passport photos @ Walmart in Bloomington. One guy there is quite experienced taking them. They were <$10. AAA & Post Office will take them, but Walmart is the cheapest. Do find an experienced photographer wherever you go (for passports; State Dept is picky).

 

[snorko]

Three form 4s, sbs, sbr & suppressor, I simply snapped a photo against a blank wall, printed out 2"x2" copies on regular paper and taped them to the form. all went through fine.