First black powder?

[cg21]

Just recently becoming interested in history and wanting to have a part of it. I am not to the point of buying the real deal yet…. I am looking at reproduction rifles specifically the Brown Bess (and which. variation would best represent the colonists during revolutionary war seems the short Brown Bess?) are there companies I should steer clear of? Should I wait until the spring shoot in friendship to find something?


(I have a modern inline muzzleloader for deer looking)

 

[Leadeye]

I've seen some nice looking Brown Bess repros on GB, nothing short of a grand though.

 

[cg21]

I've seen some nice looking Brown Bess repros on GB, nothing short of a grand though.

I found a company that has reproductions for $750 admittedly still more than I would like to pay but all the cool toys are always more $$

I will pay for quality I just don’t want junk.

 

[Leadeye]

Personally I collect original BP stuff, but don't have a Brown Bess. You can get a historical cap and ball gun for about the same money.

 

[Ark]

Brown Bess won't be cheap if you want something you can actually shoot. Buckle up for a grand or more from pedersoli, plus very high powder charges and expensive full size musket balls.

A .50 flintlock from Traditions or CVA is a lot more accessible to start with.

 

[cg21]

Brown Bess won't be cheap if you want something you can actually shoot. Buckle up for a grand or more from pedersoli, plus very high powder charges and expensive full size musket balls.

A .50 flintlock from Traditions or CVA is a lot more accessible to start with.

Thank you any recommendations for a beginner as far as brand or type of lock ? Want to use it to get my feet wet but also to hunt deer with more traditional equipment

 

[Dirty Steve]

I killed several deer and turkey with a cut down Brown Bess back in the 90's. It will get the job done and it was a very fun gun to shoot. I sold it and wish that I never had. Mine was a Pedersoli that I bought from Jerry Eder (God rest his soul).

Dirty Steve

 

[cg21]

I killed several deer and turkey with a cut down Brown Bess back in the 90's. It will get the job done and it was a very fun gun to shoot. I sold it and wish that I never had. Mine was a Pedersoli that I bought from Jerry Eder (God rest his soul).

Dirty Steve

I can understand the regret.

 

[Leadeye]

Pedersoli makes good stuff, but it's expensive. I think Ark has the best suggestion.

 

[Ark]

Thank you any recommendations for a beginner as far as brand or type of lock ? Want to use it to get my feet wet but also to hunt deer with more traditional equipment

Traditions is pretty solid for a beginner. You can build a kit or buy finished, and Track of the Wolf had upgraded locks if you so desire. 50 cal balls and 5/8" flints for those smallish Traditions locks are plentiful and cheap.

I think it's worth getting into a .50 flintlock rifle first, they're quite accurate and will give you the experience you're interested in before you commit major $$$.

 

[WhiskE TangO]

Just recently becoming interested in history and wanting to have a part of it. I am not to the point of buying the real deal yet…. I am looking at reproduction rifles specifically the Brown Bess (and which. variation would best represent the colonists during revolutionary war seems the short Brown Bess?) are there companies I should steer clear of? Should I wait until the spring shoot in friendship to find something?


(I have a modern inline muzzleloader for deer looking)

I would suggest to steer clear of Pedersoli. I had one.... did "okay", but the main issue was if you need replacement parts they are difficult to get. Should you decide to swap out something like, say the lock, its a weird metric size and literally nothing is compatible with it. I ended up buying a custom Tennessee southern mountain gun in 45cal. It was not to terribly expensive in comparison at $900.

 

[cg21]

It’s funny because until you go down this rabbit hole from the outside looking in muzzleloaders are simple. Mechanically speaking they are but there are still a lot of options and decisions to consider when purchasing.

im thinking a Kentucky rifle might be my best option historically significant ( I know they all are but from the American side of history which I am interested more so than others ) and I can use it for hunting still and seems more reasonably priced than other options.

any feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

[warren5421]

You want a rifle that the lock sparks a lot. The Brown Bess isn't the be all. A lot of Colonial fighters used a Fowling gun, shotgun, that would shot both shot and patched round ball.

Colonial American Longrifle Kit +$315 Lock Billed Separately

Photos of finished rifles are EXAMPLES of what can be done. Rifle is shipped in unassembled kit form. ESTIMATED WAIT TIME - 1-2 weeks Pricing Prices do not reflect the price of $315 lock which we will bill separately after your order. After you place your order, you will get an email with...

kiblerslongrifles.com

https://www.americanlongrifles.org Good info and sometimes better guns than Pedersoli for the same price.

 

[cg21]

Wow those finished rifles

 

[WhiskE TangO]

It’s funny because until you go down this rabbit hole from the outside looking in muzzleloaders are simple. Mechanically speaking they are but there are still a lot of options and decisions to consider when purchasing.

im thinking a Kentucky rifle might be my best option historically significant ( I know they all are but from the American side of history which I am interested more so than others ) and I can use it for hunting still and seems more reasonably priced than other options.

any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Kentucky long rifle would be a great first rifle. Can find a nice looking one for a decent price that can give you both that "historical feel" you are looking for, but also be capable of hunting use. I have a 45 cal, and I am not sure about hunting with it. The round ball is decent size, but I am thinking something 50 cal or larger would be efficient. Maybe someone with more experience can chime in.

 

[Dirty Steve]

A .45 is fine and will kill a deer with a shot placed where it should be. I wouldn't think twice about hunting with it.

Dirty Steve

 

[ed1838]

My first and only muzzle loader is a modern cheap cva wolf break action I got it used from a guy that wanted a traditional one. Cost was less than the extras that was included. I only use for deer hunting and been happy with it. It is not a pretty gun just filled the need. Shoots straight only got 2 deer with it so far. They both dropped and was dead right there.

 

[WhiskE TangO]

A .45 is fine and will kill a deer with a shot placed where it should be. I wouldn't think twice about hunting with it.

Dirty Steve

Thanks for letting me know. I have never actually gotten the opportunity to take it out yet. I am not proficient enough putting holes in paper, so therefore do not want to take it out and risk injuring the animal instead of getting a kill shot.

 

[Trapper Jim]

 

[BigRed]