Finger inside trigger guard

[downrange72]

It's already the 'Ber' months and playing Christmas music already.

Yo started in a 'ust' month. Lol

 

[Tanfodude]

Yo started in a 'ust' month. Lol

it's 8/31 at 10 pm EST. in EU, Asia, and Australia, it's already Ber month so technically still correct.

 

[Tanfodude]

2022 Area 5

 

[Trapper Jim]

Easy to spot at most matches and real easy to spot on self trained shooters.

 

[Trapper Jim]

Easy to spot at most matches and real easy to spot on self trained shooters

 

[Tanfodude]

You can say that again... wait, you already said it twice.

 

[Trapper Jim]

You can say that again... wait, you already said it twice.

Right…and if every one would call it out more….Steve NewShooter might get the hint….

 

[Grelber]

2022 Area 5

Couple things. In the photo his fingernail is about the same color as the background, making a trigger call in real time with certainty is something I couldn't do based upon only this picture. Also from only the picture I can't tell if the shooter is in the process of bringing his gun to the target, if so I assume this would be considered to be aiming and would not be a penalty.

I am looking at things wrong?

 

[Trapper Jim]

Couple things. In the photo his fingernail is about the same color as the background, making a trigger call in real time with certainty is something I couldn't do based upon only this picture. Also from only the picture I can't tell if the shooter is in the process of bringing his gun to the target, if so I assume this would be considered to be aiming and would not be a penalty.

I am looking at things wrong?

Very possible this and that’s what makes RO calls so tough to see. The fact remains however that the four rules sometimes are relaxed when one is trying to win.

 

[04FXSTS]

I have been an IDPA SO since 2007 and have run a lot of shooters. "Finger" calls can be easy to miss depending on your position in relation to the shooter. This is being done in real time not looking at a picture that is still hard to determine in still life. Pluss this is a call that is serious in nature both ways, you want to keep everyone safe but don't want to call it and be wrong. Jim.

 

[Trapper Jim]

I have been an IDPA SO since 2007 and have run a lot of shooters. "Finger" calls can be easy to miss depending on your position in relation to the shooter. This is being done in real time not looking at a picture that is still hard to determine in still life. Pluss this is a call that is serious in nature both ways, you want to keep everyone safe but don't want to call it and be wrong. Jim.

Good point. FWIW, baseball games like shooting matches have all been won or lost due to calls. What we hope for is continuity in officiating.

 

[GranolaFacility]

Safety is one of those things that can make things real awkward real fast. I've gone shooting with friends who had a decade more experience shooting than I, but their safety was poor. I don't like being muzzled, thank you. I won't be going shooting with you again.

 

[cbhausen]

“Muzzle!” and “Finger!” are the most important. Tell me, do the competition shooting rules address treating a gun like it’s always loaded? How do RSO‘s know when a gun is being mistreated in such a way?

 

[shootersix]

“Muzzle!” and “Finger!” are the most important. Tell me, do the competition shooting rules address treating a gun like it’s always loaded? How do RSO‘s know when a gun is being mistreated in such a way?

I recently worked a tier 3 idpa match, and the stages each had a cso (chief safety officer) and a so/score keeper (me) and I positioned myself where I could watch the movement between shooting positions, and I made more finger calls at that match than I’ve seen in almost 3 years competing, it just happened to be a spot where it was easy for me to see, and a spot that put shooters in a position that was easy to forget that it was moving from position to position.

 

[cbhausen]

I recently worked a tier 3 idpa match, and the stages each had a cso (chief safety officer) and a so/score keeper (me) and I positioned myself where I could watch the movement between shooting positions, and I made more finger calls at that match than I’ve seen in almost 3 years competing, it just happened to be a spot where it was easy for me to see, and a spot that put shooters in a position that was easy to forget that it was moving from position to position.

But, how do you as an RSO know when someone isn’t treating a gun as if it’s always loaded?

(This is all said tongue-in-cheek, of course. Anyone who knows me on this board is probably sick and tired of me harping on three rules instead of four. I guess there’s always the ignore button.)

 

[shootersix]

But, how do you as an RSO know when someone isn’t treating a gun as if it’s always loaded?

(This is all said tongue-in-cheek, of course. Anyone who knows me on this board is probably sick and tired of me harping on three rules instead of four. I guess there’s always the ignore button.)

In this instance, the rules say you can’t move with your finger inside the trigger guard

 

[cbhausen]

In this instance, the rules say you can’t move with your finger inside the trigger guard

That’s NRA’s rule number two and Cooper’s rule number three. Again, how do you as an RSO enforce Cooper’s rule number one? (Asking for a friend this time.)

 

[shootersix]

That’s NRA’s rule number two and Cooper’s rule number three. Again, how do you as an RSO enforce Cooper’s rule number one? (Asking for a friend this time.)

The speed limit is 70…how can nascar let their drivers go over 70?

 

[cbhausen]

The speed limit is 70…how can nascar let their drivers go over 70?

 

[mongo404]

Most of this relates back to the club level matches where the mind set still remains its just a local.... Which is a huge discredit to the shooters that want to shoot the bigger matches. I cant think of anything worse that spending all the money and time to go to a lvl 2 or higher match and get DQ'd for something that should have been learned at home. I have warned several people and DQ'd my share, hell called one a Nationals last year. The guy wasn't happy and wanted to argue. but guess what, I wouldn't call it if it wasn't there. plus another RO saw the same thing. There is no arguing a safety infraction if the RO is 100% on what they saw. But then again some people just need to learn the hard way.