Felons carrying weapons

[Kirk Freeman]

Felons can't carry firearms? Sir you'd be incorrect in that assumption....

Depends.

If you are SVF, you cannot possess any type of firearm.

 

[grillak]

Not sure how it is in other cities but in Indy there are a lot of state and federal prosecutions for gun crimes. Probably due to the homicide numbers.

and yet a large number of homicides on our streets are committed by convicted felons with illegal guns.

remember the punk a few weeks back that killed a whole family over stimmy money?

his shooting another punk in the chest five times was plead down to assault and he ws set free.

we can have 100 prosecutors in marion county, if they won't do their job it doesn't help us

 

[actaeon277]

and yet a large number of homicides on our streets are committed by convicted felons with illegal guns.

remember the punk a few weeks back that killed a whole family over stimmy money?

his shooting another punk in the chest five times was plead down to assault and he ws set free.

we can have 100 prosecutors in marion county, if they won't do their job it doesn't help us

Preach

 

[printcraft]

I remember these same arguments brought up in the 70s and 80s when gun control advocates started barking about needing more laws. They weren't actually enforcing the ones they already had. Must be that old laws just aren't as stylish as new laws, or maybe it's that new law smell.

 

[actaeon277]

A politician want to be able to point to a law, and state, "Look what I did."
If he pushes no law, or repeals laws, he can't do that.

So you have a situation where maybe you have all the laws you "need".
And maybe a few laws need to be added/changed due to tech changes.
But, they need to make more laws, every year, year after year.
Till there is so much regulation, it chokes the golden goose.

 

[led4thehed2]

I'll chime in on behalf of Marion County, IN - we have LOTS of people on Probation and other forms of community supervision (Home Detention) for Possession of a Firearm cases. If it's your first gun case, it's a class A misdemeanor - one year max, and no prison time. Those are VERY likely to be suspended sentences served on Probation. 2nd time it's a level 5 Felony- 6 years max, prison is a possibility. Those are also likely to be suspended sentences and served on Probation, but more likely with some Home Detention. If you're a serious violent felon, your gun case is now a level 4 felony- 12 years max. These are more likely to get spme prison time, but almost never anywhere near the full 12 years, and often with time suspended and serves on Probation. These are simplifications, and there are lots of circumstances that can change or enhance these charges.

I can personally account for a client on Probation for Robbery, was convicted of a level 4 Felony gun charge, and was allowed to complete Probation successfully. He then started Probation for the gun case, and went out of state (not allowed) and got ANOTHER gun case. That Probation was revoked to home Detention, and he's actually serving Probation at the same time for the out of state gun case, which was a completely suspended sentence. This man NEVER saw the inside of a prison cell.

So yeah, gun charges are not taken very seriously in the Circle City. There are so many.

 

[grillak]

I'll chime in on behalf of Marion County, IN - we have LOTS of people on Probation and other forms of community supervision (Home Detention) for Possession of a Firearm cases. If it's your first gun case, it's a class A misdemeanor - one year max, and no prison time. Those are VERY likely to be suspended sentences served on Probation. 2nd time it's a level 5 Felony- 6 years max, prison is a possibility. Those are also likely to be suspended sentences and served on Probation, but more likely with some Home Detention. If you're a serious violent felon, your gun case is now a level 4 felony- 12 years max. These are more likely to get spme prison time, but almost never anywhere near the full 12 years, and often with time suspended and serves on Probation. These are simplifications, and there are lots of circumstances that can change or enhance these charges.

I can personally account for a client on Probation for Robbery, was convicted of a level 4 Felony gun charge, and was allowed to complete Probation successfully. He then started Probation for the gun case, and went out of state (not allowed) and got ANOTHER gun case. That Probation was revoked to home Detention, and he's actually serving Probation at the same time for the out of state gun case, which was a completely suspended sentence. This man NEVER saw the inside of a prison cell.

So yeah, gun charges are not taken very seriously in the Circle City. There are so many.

get the pitchforks and torches and let's chase chase the prosecutors & judges out of town.

until gun violence hits them close to home, they never take it seriously.

 

[RCB]

What tends to happen these days is they dump a bunch of charges on a person. Everyone is guilty of a few felonies a day anyhow, but what this allows prosecutors to do is offer bad bargains in exchange for a plea. So often, weapons charges will be dropped in exchange for guilty pleas for assault, robbery or whatever. The prosecutors improve their records without ever having to go to court. Just another symptom of our corrupt legal system.

We tend to see this in major cities where it's nearly an assembly line and they "don't have time" to actually follow legal procedure and instead opt for expedience. However, they will make exceptions for otherwise law abiding people as 2020 illustrated, hauling in parents and small business owners for exercising 1st amendment rights and trying to earn a living or heaven forbid... live free.