Enough gun control? Or is it really about total disarmament?

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  • Tombs

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    I doubt people are eager to comply. Reluctant would be more accurate.

    It means the government has stripped them of the culture and ideology that made this country great.

    This is why China is a complete and total mess, yet Taiwan is mostly fine. Communism burns away people's souls.
     

    JAL

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    It has always been about total civilian disarmament by the government . . . and it's the very reason James Madison wrote the 2nd Amendment.

    An interesting read is about Andrew Jackson about the time he became President (1829-1837), and claims he was in favor of "gun control". He wasn't. He opposed the government handing citizens free arms in hopes they would keep and maintain them in the event they were called upon to help defend their state, territory or the nation. His experience from the War of 1812 was farmers in the (then) nearly completely agrarian nation, after the war, disposed of the arms they had been given by the government in one manner or another, usually selling them for a pittance, as they didn't need them in their daily lives tilling fields and harvesting crops. This is considerably different from someone who had made or purchased their own arms, expending their own money and/or sweat equity to acquire or create them. People value most what they must work for to attain, and many won't value anything they're handed for free, especially if they don't have a perceived need or critical use for it. What Jackson did want is federal armories to store and maintain arms in the event of a national emergency which needed to raise a larger army and local militias, so that they could be armed. Nowhere in all of his arguments for that did he express any desire to disarm the civilian populace.
     

    cosermann

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    We had a national AWB. It expired. Research has shown it had no appreciable effect on crime. Yet, we hear renewed calls for similar legislation at state and federal levels. Controlling crime is obviously not the goal (we also see this in the defund the police movement, etc.). Control is the goal (which leads to disarmament).

    It's not about crime. It's not about safety. It's not about "the children." Those are all simply plausible political cover. It's about control.
     

    carry205

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    We had a national AWB. It expired. Research has shown it had no appreciable effect on crime. Yet, we hear renewed calls for similar legislation at state and federal levels. Controlling crime is obviously not the goal (we also see this in the defund the police movement, etc.). Control is the goal (which leads to disarmament).

    It's not about crime. It's not about safety. It's not about "the children." Those are all simply plausible political cover. It's about control.
    This. Absolutely this.
     
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