Drug test to attend homecoming dance?

[Ingomike]

I know about the problems with importing. The cartels have taken over the Mexican agricultural industry and threat to kill the families that they don't put drugs inside the shipments. It is awful.

I read on INGO that drugs are victimless…

 

[nonobaddog]

We've tried variations of that, but it doesn't make much of an impact. The big numbers are coming across hidden in legal trade. Hidden compartments in semi trucks or train cars, mixed in with legal trade products in shipping containers, etc. The sheer bulk of trade goods we import precludes the ability to search it all, particularly goods that spoil, at the time of crossing. Dogs, MVACIS machines, etc. all help but look up the tonnage that crosses the southern border every day legally and you'll get an idea of the scope of the issue.

How much fentanyl comes across every day?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

How much fentanyl comes across every day?

You can get on CBP web site and see seizures by month. Undetected? Obviously lots more, but how much "lots" is impossible to determine and estimates vary.

 

[KLB]

Sometimes when I read through these tough threads I think, "people truly treat drugs like their do their politics". Then I realize that is why we're in the trouble we are with our government, that's Biden is president, that is why we see trannies putting on shows for our children. No one gives a rats behind about much of anything as long as it does not interfere with them. If I'm comfortable, do whatever you want.

In our efforts to maximize true freedoms, our efforts will at times have over reach, but instead of getting support and help, we get flack.

Maximizing true freedom does not include using the government to control things you do not like.

You are free to try to convince people to not do things, but using the force of government to get them to too is the opposite of freedom.

 

[Ziggidy]

Maximizing true freedom does not include using the government to control things you do not like.

You are free to try to convince people to not do things, but using the force of government to get them to too is the opposite of freedom.

I might have, but I do not remember saying if i liked or disliked drugs, of any kind.

I would like government to enforce current laws that are on the books.

Some, as I heard today, say that free speech is a weapon of war!

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I read on INGO that drugs are victimless…

You also read about bread and circuses and "control", and intoxicants are the greatest circus in town as far as controlling the population. It's a sliding scale, which sometimes gets lost in the discussion. You don't get a lot of people eating faces from smoking weed...unless it's wet, but then it's not the weed.

 

[Lpherr]

You also read about bread and circuses and "control", and intoxicants are the greatest circus in town as far as controlling the population. It's a sliding scale, which sometimes gets lost in the discussion. You don't get a lot of people eating faces from smoking weed...unless it's wet, but then it's not the weed.

Weren't there people doing this kind of thing on bath salts?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Weren't there people doing this kind of thing on bath salts?

Yes, but no. They weren't just bath salts like you'd buy at Bed, Bath, & Beyond. They were synthetic drugs sold as bath salts, incense, etc.

 

[areamike]

When I owned my businesses I never pee tested anyone, I did hair.

All I got from your comment is that you no longer own your own business.

 

[bwframe]

Indiana senator seeks tougher charges for fentanyl distributors

INDIANAPOLIS—U.S. Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., is co-sponsoring a bill that would make distributing fentanyl that results in death a felony murder offense.

www.thestatehousefile.com

 

[areamike]

Indiana senator seeks tougher charges for fentanyl distributors

INDIANAPOLIS—U.S. Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., is co-sponsoring a bill that would make distributing fentanyl that results in death a felony murder offense.

www.thestatehousefile.com

Cause and effect.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Indiana senator seeks tougher charges for fentanyl distributors

INDIANAPOLIS—U.S. Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., is co-sponsoring a bill that would make distributing fentanyl that results in death a felony murder offense.

www.thestatehousefile.com

From April 2020 to April 2021, there were 2,482 reported drug overdoses in the state, according to the CDC. From April 2021 to April 2022, that number rose to 2,765—an 11.4% increase.

Uh, are they saying total overdoses, or deaths? I bet at my hospitals alone we see close to that many annual "overdoses"

 

[Creedmoor]

All I got from your comment is that you no longer own your own business.

I never pee tested any new hire, I paid for a hair test. Odds are one that passes a hair test, isn't going an addict.

 

[areamike]

Uh, are they saying total overdoses, or deaths? I bet at my hospitals alone we see close to that many annual "overdoses"

It says Overdoses.
From April 2020 to April 2021, there were 2,482 reported drug overdoses in the state, according to the CDC. From April 2021 to April 2022, that number rose to 2,765—an 11.4% increase.
“Eighty-five percent of [Indiana’s overdose deaths in 2021] are due to fentanyl,” Douglas Huntsinger, Indiana’s executive director for drug prevention, enforcement and treatment, told Indiana Public Media.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I never pee tested any new hire, I paid for a hair test. Odds are one that passes a hair test, isn't going an addict.

I prefer my employer's approach. "If there's a problem, it will become apparent, and we'll deal with it appropriately at that time." Much more cost efficient. (Federal gubmint employee here btw)

 

[Creedmoor]

I prefer my employer's approach. "If there's a problem, it will become apparent, and we'll deal with it appropriately at that time." Much more cost efficient. (Federal gubmint employee here btw)

Most employees do prefer that.

Its a bit different when its Your Money.
Its tough to get a few thousand dollars out of a drug addict to replace the wrecked/totaled truck. Or tools, consumables, machines that were stolen because one is to cheap or lazy to drug test new hires.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Most employees do prefer that.

Its a bit different when its Your Money.
Its tough to get a few thousand dollars out of a drug addict to replace the wrecked/totaled truck. Or tools, consumables, machines that were stolen because one is to cheap or lazy to drug test new hires.

Maybe we just had better quality applicants. No drug tests, just Federal background checks (I passed! Twice!). I reckon they cost more than a pee or hair test. Thanks fellow taxpayer!.

 

[Creedmoor]

Maybe we just had better quality applicants. No drug tests, just Federal background checks (I passed! Twice!). I reckon they cost more than a pee or hair test. Thanks fellow taxpayer!.

Funny thing about Federal Buildings years ago, I worked in a few years back with Otis, many used to have beer machines besides the soda machines in the cafeteria's. What a job perk that was. Wonder why they took them out.
Everyone should walk the hallways of the Federal Buildings around the country, it would be a learning experience in the efficiency in the workplaces.

 

[Indyhd]

Now if we could just set up the US as one big HOA we could make a rule and just eliminate drug possession completely...

 

[Twangbanger]

So explain to me again how keeping someone out of a dance saves lives?