[DGU] The 'Defensive Gun Use' Thread

[Alamo]

Ogden, Utah (JMB's home town!)

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Armed school employee stops alleged attempted kidnapping in Ogden

OGDEN, Utah (ABC4) – A 41-year-old man is in custody after allegedly trying to kidnap an 11-year-old girl in Ogden. Ogden police were called to a local elementary school Tuesday after a teach…

www.abc4.com

Armed teacher stops child snatcher abducting girl, 11, from school

An armed elementary school teacher stopped 41-year-old Ira Cox -Berry from breaking into Lincoln Elementary School in Ogden after stopping him abducting an 11-year-old schoolgirl, cops say.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Last Tuesday man tried to grab an 11 yo girl from a school playground.

A teacher saw it happening, confronted the man enabling the girl to escape, and then shepherded 20 kids into the school.

The man tried to break into the school. A teacher (not sure if same teacher who originally confronted the man or not), a "licensed concealed gun carrier," drew his handgun and held the man until police got there, who took the man into custody after a struggle.

“This employee is protected under the Second Amendment. He followed all policy and procedure at the school, and in this particular case, did everything that he should have done to protect the innocent lives of the children at the school,” Lt. Eynon (Ogden police) told ABC4. “And in this case, it is likely that a life was saved or injury to a life was prevented due to the actions of this heroic employee.”

...

“A teacher intervened when there was a situation that threatened students’ safety. This teacher, this school employee, is a hero. We don’t disagree with that at all,” Ogden School District’s Jer Bates tells us.

Update: Ogden police press release: Facebook

 

[actaeon277]

And of course, national news is not blasting that 24 hours a day.

 

[dudley0]

Ogden, Utah (JMB's home town!)

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Armed school employee stops alleged attempted kidnapping in Ogden

OGDEN, Utah (ABC4) – A 41-year-old man is in custody after allegedly trying to kidnap an 11-year-old girl in Ogden. Ogden police were called to a local elementary school Tuesday after a teach…

www.abc4.com

Armed teacher stops child snatcher abducting girl, 11, from school

An armed elementary school teacher stopped 41-year-old Ira Cox -Berry from breaking into Lincoln Elementary School in Ogden after stopping him abducting an 11-year-old schoolgirl, cops say.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Last Tuesday man tried to grab an 11 yo girl from a school playground.

A teacher saw it happening, confronted the man enabling the girl to escape, and then shepherded 20 kids into the school.

The man tried to break into the school. A teacher (not sure if same teacher who originally confronted the man or not), a "licensed concealed gun carrier," drew his handgun and held the man until police got there, who took the man into custody after a struggle.




Update: Ogden police press release: Facebook

Both my kids are teachers and the spouse works in admin for a school. This is the perfect scenario on why you should carry. It isn't just to stop mass shootings.

Wish the school systems around here would take note.

 

[Thor]

Sister works in the system, she took a cane fighting course because they wouldn't allow a gun and she has to deal with people wanting to get in. The 2nd shouldn't be a limited right. Shall not be infringed didn't come with disclaimers.

 

[Alamo]

If I read this article correctly, Utah teachers who have a carry license can carry at school, period. No permission needed from the administration or the school board.

Utah law allows for armed teachers, but are they comfortable packing? – St George News (stgeorgeutah.com)

 

[Alamo]

Sarasota Florida

'Disoriented' man fatally shot after breaking into Sarasota home, deputies say

Dispatchers received a frantic 911 call Wednesday morning from inside a home in Sarasota: "Someone just tried to break into my home and I just shot and killed him."

www.fox13news.com

Family calls sheriff because 29 yo mentally ill son "recently experienced mental health issues and seemed disoriented earlier that day," and apparently left the house. While deputies searched neighborhood for him, another 911 call came from son of a homeowner (age not given) half-a-mile away who said he shot someone breaking into his house.

Deputies found mentally ill son dead on porch. Son of homeowner said man picked up a "plant from Dad's yard" (presumably in a pot of some kind) and charged him.

Sheriff's office person said "There were a couple of attempts maybe at a door or window. It wasn’t just somebody knocking at a door or window. It was more involved than that,"

 

[Alamo]

Oklahoma

Wife of man in jail for killing alleged burglar at his business: ‘My heart is broken’ (yahoo.com)

This happened a year ago, trial was supposed to start this week but now pushed back to October.

Man running marijuana growing business (medical MJ legal in Oklahoma) burglarized one morning. Wife says same burglar came back that night at 0100 through a hole in their fence and went to back door. Husband fired three times through door, killing burglar. Man charged with first degree murder.

In Texas, you are presumed to have acted reasonably if you use deadly force against someone using force to unlawfully enter or attempting to enter your habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment. ("using force" can be as little as opening an unlocked door). Dunno what Okie laws are like. Wife says husband is being charged because he's black and burglar is (was?) white.

Going strictly by what was presented, State of OK is not looking good, but the article is based on what the wife says, it's possible there's more to it.

 

[Thor]

Crazy people and drugged people are difficult to deal with.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

If I read this article correctly, Utah teachers who have a carry license can carry at school, period. No permission needed from the administration or the school board.

Utah law allows for armed teachers, but are they comfortable packing? – St George News (stgeorgeutah.com)

You are reading it correctly for public schools/college, private schools/college is a different story.

 

[Alamo]

Arvada Colorado

Bad guy who police say hated cops (he left a note) and went on a mission to kill cops ambushes and kills police officer with a shotgun, shoots out windows of police car, gets an AR-15, goes hunting for more cops.

Citizen with handgun shopping nearby shoots and kills bad guy and apparently disarms him. Another cop arriving on scene sees citizen holding rifle and kills him.

Good guy with a gun stops Denver shooter… But is accidentally killed by police…

SOURCE DENVER (AP) — A Colorado man was shopping when he heard gunfire that killed a Denver police officer, rushed out of the store with his gun and shot the suspect, according to a w…

citizenfreepress.com

Colorado good 'Samaritan' who killed gunman fatally shot by cop while holding suspect’s rifle, police say

The “good Samaritan” who fatally shot a gunman following an attack that left a Colorado police officer dead was himself killed by an officer responding to the chaotic scene, investigators said Friday.

news.yahoo.com

Colorado gunman who killed officer was specifically targeting cops in ambush, police say

The Colorado police officer who was killed Monday along with the suspected gunman and a civilian was identified Tuesday as a 19-year veteran of the force who was "targeted" and "ambushed" because he was wearing a uniform and badge, officials said.

www.foxnews.com

 

[jamil]

Wow. That one event is one of the strongest narrative busters around. I wonder how the progressives will spin that?

 

[2A_Tom]

Arvada Colorado

Bad guy who police say hated cops (he left a note) and went on a mission to kill cops ambushes and kills police officer with a shotgun, shoots out windows of police car, gets an AR-15, goes hunting for more cops.

Citizen with handgun shopping nearby shoots and kills bad guy and apparently disarms him. Another cop arriving on scene sees citizen holding rifle and kills him.

Good guy with a gun stops Denver shooter… But is accidentally killed by police…

SOURCE DENVER (AP) — A Colorado man was shopping when he heard gunfire that killed a Denver police officer, rushed out of the store with his gun and shot the suspect, according to a w…

citizenfreepress.com

Colorado good 'Samaritan' who killed gunman fatally shot by cop while holding suspect’s rifle, police say

The “good Samaritan” who fatally shot a gunman following an attack that left a Colorado police officer dead was himself killed by an officer responding to the chaotic scene, investigators said Friday.

news.yahoo.com

Colorado gunman who killed officer was specifically targeting cops in ambush, police say

The Colorado police officer who was killed Monday along with the suspected gunman and a civilian was identified Tuesday as a 19-year veteran of the force who was "targeted" and "ambushed" because he was wearing a uniform and badge, officials said.

www.foxnews.com

Scan, kick the shooters guns away from him (DO NOT PICK THEM UP), scan, re-holster and assume a submissive posture!

 

[dudley0]

Scan, kick the shooters guns away from him (DO NOT PICK THEM UP), scan, re-holster and assume a submissive posture!

I would add that after second scan do not re-holster unless LEO is coming on scene. Never know if bad guy has a buddy or is still able to move.

That being said, I did not read any of the articles yet. My sad meter is pegged so I will have to wait for it to drop down a bit.

 

[2A_Tom]

I would add that after second scan do not re-holster unless LEO is coming on scene. Never know if bad guy has a buddy or is still able to move.

That being said, I did not read any of the articles yet. My sad meter is pegged so I will have to wait for it to drop down a bit.

From what I understand, he was holding the shooters rifle when LEO arrived.

 

[Alamo]

Modesto California

Granny got her gun.

Sheriff: Attempted Home Invasion Suspect Shot, Killed By Resident

A woman suspected of an attempted home invasion at a rural home near Modesto was shot and killed by a resident, authorities say.

sacramento.cbslocal.com

 

[Alamo]

Houston, Texas

Around 2200 on 28 June perv taps on 10 yo girl's window while perving. Girl screams, parents arm themselves (both have LTCs), confront perv, order him to lie down in the yard until police arrive. Instead perv crosses street to a gas station. Parents follow, mom "holds him at gunpoint" outside gas station store while dad goes inside to call police. Perv jumps mom, wrestles gun away from her, tries to pull trigger but apparently safety is on and defeats him. Dad rushes back outside and shoots perv three (according to sheriff) or four (according to dad) times in torso. Perv rushed to hospital in critical condition. Perv later charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and indecency with a child by exposure. Still in hospital as of yesterday (5 July).

I would not have done a couple or three things that these parents did, but it came out alright in the end.

Texas father shoots man peeping into 10-year-old daughter's bedroom: deputies | Fox News

‘Peeping Tom’ shot 3 times by Texas girl’s father is charged: report | Fox News

 

[jamil]

Yeah. Glad that worked out but I’m curious why the dad didn’t hold the guy and let the mom call police.

 

[Alamo]

Islamorada Florida

Man accused of molesting 12-year-old girl at Islamorada hotel

A 41-year-old Miami man was arrested Sunday on accusations that he molested a 12-year-old girl at a hotel in Islamorada, authorities said.

www.local10.com

Another perv.

Husband, wife, 12 yo daughter , 41 yo man sharing motel room. Husband and man go out drinking and return late. Man sleeps on pullout bed.

Later wife wakes husband when she hears daughter scream. Husband sees naked man leaning over daughter and touching her and himself. Husband pulls gun and kicks man out of room, calls cops. Cops pull over man in his car a mile away.

I’m amazed this perv didnt end up shot.

 

[wtburnette]

Really makes me wonder why they trusted this guy in the same room with their family in the first place.

 

[Thor]

I’m amazed this perv didn't end up shot.

Huge parental failure. But I'm thinking it was in the parents modus operendi so the child was being abused long before the abuser abused her. At least they stepped up at the end to stop the latest abuse but there should be some major lifestyle changes.