Democrats and Election Fraud

[Tombs]

[h=1]Report: Dominion machine analyzed, and yes, it switched votes[/h]

 

[jamil]

Report: Dominion machine analyzed, and yes, it switched votes

It’s 37 votes. And if true, it would justify further scrutiny. But is it true? Or is it a lie? My position in the political spectrum does not determine that. The facts determine that. Who was the “expert”. What was his credentials? What evidence has he uncovered that proves the votes were switched? If this expert analyzed the machine, and really found that 37 votes were changed, surely the evidence is documented. So where is that evidence to justify analyzing all the machines?

So far, throughout the aftermath of the election, we’ve heard a lot of claims, and granted, we’ve seen some shady things. That falls short of what is necessary to overturn an election. It’s time for proof. I mean real ass proof. And independent verification. Show us the low level log messages. Something. Short of that, it smells to me like all the allegations and reporting has the purpose of getting people to distrust the election outcome.

 

[drillsgt]

It’s 37 votes. And if true, it would justify further scrutiny. But is it true? Or is it a lie? My position in the political spectrum does not determine that. The facts determine that. Who was the “expert”. What was his credentials? What evidence has he uncovered that proves the votes were switched? If this expert analyzed the machine, and really found that 37 votes were changed, surely the evidence is documented. So where is that evidence to justify analyzing all the machines?

So far, throughout the aftermath of the election, we’ve heard a lot of claims, and granted, we’ve seen some shady things. That falls short of what is necessary to overturn an election. It’s time for proof. I mean real ass proof. And independent verification. Show us the low level log messages. Something. Short of that, it smells to me like all the allegations and reporting has the purpose of getting people to distrust the election outcome.

There will never be anybody any side would ever consider 'independent'.

 

[ghitch75]

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Report: Dominion machine analyzed, and yes, it switched votes

How did they acquire the machine? The one that per your article "Ware County Election Supervisor Carlos Nelson told me this is false: No one has obtained any machine from his office. There was a human-error tabulation issue discovered during the hand recount, the tallies of which were matched by the just-ended machine recount.". Also the reporter mentioned that he read his testimony, here it is I see nothing regarding them analyzing any machines.
https://voterga.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/ga-state-senate-statement.pdf

 

[ghitch75]

[h=1]Patrick Basham explains why Biden victory 'not statistically impossible, but ... statistically implausible'[/h]
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...-biden-donald-trump-patrick-basham-mark-levin

 

[jamil]

There will never be anybody any side would ever consider 'independent'.

Well. maybe not for the ideologues who would never accept any information that does not deliver the outcome they want. So, if, say, two computer forensics firms each selected by a side analyzed the machines with full transparency, monitored by each side, and then concluded that no hacking or vote changing was evident, would you accept that?

 

[jamil]

Patrick Basham explains why Biden victory 'not statistically impossible, but ... statistically implausible'


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/20...-biden-donald-trump-patrick-basham-mark-levin

Do s that put us objectively over the bar?

 

[edwea]

I have a feeling that there is a large segment of the democrat voters have seen just how corrupt their party has become. I expect center left democrats may be watching this unfold and decide the fairness of the election process is more important than your candidate winning. This blatant fraud has likely pushed these voters away leaving a party consisting of those too brainwashed to question anything or too corrupt to care.

 

[Alpo]

It’s 37 votes. And if true, it would justify further scrutiny. But is it true? Or is it a lie? My position in the political spectrum does not determine that. The facts determine that. Who was the “expert”. What was his credentials? What evidence has he uncovered that proves the votes were switched? If this expert analyzed the machine, and really found that 37 votes were changed, surely the evidence is documented. So where is that evidence to justify analyzing all the machines?

So far, throughout the aftermath of the election, we’ve heard a lot of claims, and granted, we’ve seen some shady things. That falls short of what is necessary to overturn an election. It’s time for proof. I mean real ass proof. And independent verification. Show us the low level log messages. Something. Short of that, it smells to me like all the allegations and reporting has the purpose of getting people to distrust the election outcome.

Washington Examiner: A Georgia county election official said claims on social media that President Trump’s team has gotten hold of a Dominion voting machine are completely false.

Politico’s Marc Caputo reported over Twitter that Carlos Nelson, a Ware County election supervisor, pushed back on an assertion from Chuck Callesto, a self-described political strategist who has been boosting unverified claims of election fraud on social media, that the Trump team was in possession of a voting machine from Ware County.

Nelson also said there was a "human-error tabulation issue" during the hand recount and that the tallies match the machine recount. “I can tell you this is —I don’t want to cuss — this is a darned lie. Our vote machines are secure. There’s no vote-flips,” Nelson said.

Marc Caputo
@MarcACaputo
Ware County Election Supervisor Carlos Nelson told me this is false: No one has obtained any machine from his office. There was a human-error tabulation issue discovered during the hand recount, the tallies of which were matched by the just-ended machine recount

Appears that the allegations are, once again, not complete and lack merit.

 

[drillsgt]

I have a feeling that there is a large segment of the democrat voters have seen just how corrupt their party has become. I expect center left democrats may be watching this unfold and decide the fairness of the election process is more important than your candidate winning. This blatant fraud has likely pushed these voters away leaving a party consisting of those too brainwashed to question anything or too corrupt to care.

I think that's being pretty optimistic, we've got people on here, a gun forum, arguing for voting democrat and downplaying any fraud.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I have a feeling that there is a large segment of the democrat voters have seen just how corrupt their party has become. I expect center left democrats may be watching this unfold and decide the fairness of the election process is more important than your candidate winning. This blatant fraud has likely pushed these voters away leaving a party consisting of those too brainwashed to question anything or too corrupt to care.

This is a very reasonable point. Also worth considering is the possibility that they do not believe the hard left D candidates represent them. For example, I am inclined to believe that this is what happened with Holcomb in that he is a good fit for a center-left Democrat voter.

 

[edwea]

I think that's being pretty optimistic, we've got people on here, a gun forum, arguing for voting democrat and downplaying any fraud.

They're just arguing to be argumentative. I have 5 kids and know this behavior when I see it.

 

[Alpo]

I think that's being pretty optimistic, we've got people on here, a gun forum, arguing for voting democrat and downplaying any fraud.

Guns are not the exclusive domain of republicans and never have been. That's nonsense.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Guns are not the exclusive domain of republicans and never have been. That's nonsense.

Ok, so tell us, are guns just not that important to you, are you a Fudd and consider your preferences safe, or are you just blind to reality?

 

[Alpo]

I've already responded to this. I don't see the need to repeat it.

Are you a gun owner? The reason I ask is that I scanned your post contributions back 5 months and didn't see anything related to firearms other than politics.

There isn't a clean cutoff on the issue by party affiliation.

First article I got on google. There are many more.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-republicans-actually-support-gun-control/

 

[jbombelli]

Guns are not the exclusive domain of republicans and never have been. That's nonsense.

Maybe not. But the National Firearms Act of 1934, the Gun Control Act of 1968, the Hughes Amendment, the AWB ban, and many more (approved handgun lists, magazine bans, etc ) were all brought to us by Democrats.

The Democrat Party as a whole is not pro-gun. They are anti-gun. Any assertion otherwise is complete and total dishonesty.

 

[Ingomike]

Guns are not the exclusive domain of republicans and never have been. That's nonsense.

When one lives in a time warp, evidenced by constantly pointing out of the actions of democrats of 30 years ago as if they have not changed, this can be true...

 

[Alpo]

So, the strategy is: Alienate democrat gun owners so that they no longer assist in the 2A fight? That's your strategy?

 

[jbombelli]

As long as they keep voting Democrat, they are my enemies. I mean that from the bottom of my soul.

It doesn't matter what you like if you're voting for the guy who wants to take it away from you. And me.