Coming to a Kroger near you?

[wcd]

And you would win that bet

Kind of sad that customers are more of an annoyance than an asset. If I am taking the time to write an actual letter, put a stamp on it and mail it, I would half expect a caned response of some sort.

 

[wcd]

We cannot all be "the same" with no systemic anything until we are all equal. It is impossible for everyone to be equally rich, so the obvious choice is to make everybody equally poor.

Fine, maybe everyone will be making $35 an hour but it won't mean squat when everybody is making $35 an hour.

Yes we all can be equal just as you so aptly stated make everyone poor.

 

[wcd]

I use the Kroger in Avon and have been satisfied with the experience. I know the store layout and can usually maneuver through it to get what I want fairly quickly. I have been annoyed lately since they’ve been remodeling and moved many items around and have installed new refrigerated cases with doors for items like lunch meats, cheese and dairy items. They have also dropped several items that I used to buy, soda being made with real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup being one of them. When in my teens, many decades ago, I had a friend that worked for Kroger and she was making almost what my buddies were making at International Harvester, Ford and Chevrolet. I do shop for a lot of items at Sam’s since I get my prescriptions there but I’m looking forward to the opening of the Avon Costco.

Pretty sure Costco is anti 2a, keeps them on my list of people not to do business with.

 

[Colt556]

Pretty sure Costco is anti 2a, keeps them on my list of people not to do business with.

I carry concealed everywhere except Federal property, airports and hospitals. Don’t ask don’t tell.

 

[wcd]

I carry concealed everywhere except Federal property, airports and hospitals. Don’t ask don’t tell.

Not affected by restrictions , but understanding your position. But not that that it really matters if a store does not get my business to them, i do feel better not supporting them.

 

[Colt556]

Not affected by restrictions , but understanding your position. But not that that it really matters if a store does not get my business to them, i do feel better not supporting them.

I understand that and I try to not give my money to those businesses but in the current climate I wouldn’t be able to shop many places or watch many movies or listen to much music. The really blatant anti 2A and Leftist types I try harder to avoid.

 

[wcd]

I understand that and I try to not give my money to those businesses but in the current climate I wouldn’t be able to shop many places or watch many movies or listen to much music. The really blatant anti 2A and Leftist types I try harder to avoid.

Honestly I do not eat fast food, so easy to not patronize Sonic, We grow a lot of things, make sauces, salsa, can chicken etc, so we rarely need to visit a warehouse type store, again easy to avoid Costco.

For me not listening to music, hands down the easiest lol. But you are right more often then not it’s the next big thing to be anti and woke. So you have to make choices, and like you said avoid the ones that put their hatred of a free person out there front and center.

 

[Colt556]

Honestly I do not eat fast food, so easy to not patronize Sonic, We grow a lot of things, make sauces, salsa, can chicken etc, so we rarely need to visit a warehouse type store, again easy to avoid Costco.

For me not listening to music, hands down the easiest lol. But you are right more often then not it’s the next big thing to be anti and woke. So you have to make choices, and like you said avoid the ones that put their hatred of a free person out there front and center.

And I could’ve sworn the Democrats said they’d bring us all together and there’d be cotton candy rainbows and all the root beer we could drink once they were in office. I just try to do what I think is the best every day, it’s just getting harder and harder to do.

 

[Lex Concord]

The suck that is kroger and the teamsters reminds me of a young man I know. He worked there for a couple months before he quit out of frustration.

He needed a part time job because of school. So he was a bagger/stocker and did whatever they told him. But he could only work 10-15 hours a week due to school/sports.

He was forced to join the union, which apparently has no sliding scale for PT employees. Everyone paid the same dues no matter how many hours he worked.

When he got his first paycheck, he thought it was a mistake. It was only $20 or so for 10 hours of labor. So he took it to his manager. They pored over the pay stub. Turns out the poor kid was paying the union and "the man" most of his wages in dues and taxes. He took it to the union rep, and was told "Sorry, thats just how it goes. Nothing we can do. Everybody pays the same, otherwise it wouldnt be fair." LOLWUT???

He quit after a month. He just couldnt justify working for less than $2/hour net.

I thought closed shop was now illegal in Indiana... or was this back in the day?

I remember hating having to join the Teamsters to work at UPS part time, but the negative impact of dues was not nearly so material.

EDIT: Indiana's Right to Work Law Summary

Looks like, as with everything, timing of the CB agreement is important.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Back in the day, a few years before right to work.

And to be totally transparent, it was a unique situation. The average PTer working up to 30 hours wouldnt be hit quite so hard. But he was in the not so sweet spot of full dues and extremely limited hours that created a perfect storm nightmare of withholding.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

We cannot blame the workers who are just above poverty wages for inflation.

You've been here long enough to know that's exactly what passes for conservatism here. If workers get a raise, it raises prices or kills companies. There's never a thread about CEOs getting a raise, though, and precious few about vulture firms sucking healthy companies dry and setting them adrift. I'm not around enough to know if you still get shouted down as "Socalist" for pointing that sort of thing out, though.

I still remember the Gravity Payments thread and all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that a "job creator" voluntarily cut his own pay to pay his employees more and how that was going to crush the business despite being neutral as far as costs to the company. Somehow they just keep not failing, though, despite all that 'socialism' at work.

 

[bwframe]

You've been here long enough to know that's exactly what passes for conservatism here. If workers get a raise, it raises prices or kills companies. There's never a thread about CEOs getting a raise, though, and precious few about vulture firms sucking healthy companies dry and setting them adrift. I'm not around enough to know if you still get shouted down as "Socalist" for pointing that sort of thing out, though.

I still remember the Gravity Payments thread and all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that a "job creator" voluntarily cut his own pay to pay his employees more and how that was going to crush the business despite being neutral as far as costs to the company. Somehow they just keep not failing, though, despite all that 'socialism' at work.

You seen the post above about Warren Buffet investing in Kroger, right?

Maybe Buffet will take a pay cut so the poor Kroger employees can make more, eh?

 

[Leo]

Thanks Blue eyes, I know I was a little edgy, but I want my friends and neighbors to be able to live without welfare, that seems to mostly make bureaucrats rich.

A workman is worthy of his wage. The wage is determined by what rate a competent worker will start and stay working to receive.

Call me crazy, but recently a tree service made an error on the statement and miscounted the trees. I sent him the extra money and a letter that pointed out the error and a complement for the good job the men did. The company was higher priced than some, but had a good reputation for doing the quality of work I was willing to fund.

The cheapest tools, the cheapest firearms, the cheapest ammo, and the cheapest workers are a fools errand. I do not want to have a miserable experience being served by the cheapest.

 

[Thor]

I believe it was Benjamin Franklin that said (IIRK) "The joy of a low price is long outlived by the foul stench of poor quality".

 

[Thor]

Somehow they just keep not failing, though, despite all that 'socialism' at work.

That's not socialism, that's capitalism...or lase fare economics. Do what works to keep your company successful and earn a decent living for yourself. If that means taking a pay cut and keeping good employees so be it. It's when the government gets involved that it all goes wrong.

 

[Ziggidy]

It's the market response to the left's BS and their effort to derail our economy for further control....and it's working.

I'm retired but was bored so I picked up a part time job just over 2 years ago, making 9 bucks an hour; I was happy. (I will not reveal my employer) After about 8 months the company raised their starting pay to $10/hr. Cool I'm happier! About 3 weeks ago my boss called me over and said I was getting a dollar raise! A week later my boss said I was getting ANOTHER dollar raise!

What was explained to me was the economy was changing (my words) and it was hard to keep good workers. Other places are offering up to $15/hr and more, and they did not want me to leave. I was not the only one, there were quite a few that were talked to and received raises.

The left wants to raise minimum wages and they get resistance. They see a golden opportunity to pay people to stay away from work and hurt the job market, thus hurting the economy. Companies raise their starting pay and give current employees a raise to stay. Withiout passing a minimum wage law, government gets what it wants.

The left seeminly always wins, one way or another. The raise I received will allow me to pay towards the inflation (recession?) we will experience from all raises in wages. Who wins? Government....they get to tax all this growth in income.

Who will pay for all this? We, the people lose; again.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

That's not socialism, that's capitalism...or lase fare economics.

Not according to Rush Limbaugh and many Ingotarians. It's socialism, maybe even communism. See:

Seattle Business offering $70K min wage is failing

This guy made national headlines just 2-3 months ago saying that his company was going to offer all it's employees a $70K minimum wage. Well guess what, now the business is failing. I guess the CEO didn't think it had to make business sense, it just had be feel good and equal for all... Story...

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[Leo]

It's when the government gets involved that it all goes wrong.

That is pretty much an across the board truth.

 

[Leo]

The left seeminly always wins, one way or another. The raise I received will allow me to pay towards the inflation (recession?) we will experience from all raises in wages. Who wins? Government....they get to tax all this growth in income.

Who will pay for all this? We, the people lose; again.

IT is easy to win when you pander to the primitive and corrupt base nature, also called sin nature by theologians. There is a thread in everyone's psyche that likes "free", "easy", "lazy", etc. Generally people know deep down it is not right, but stifle those thoughts. Take a section of the population and subsidize the corrupt base nature for three or more generations, and just like magic, you own them. Instead of slavery by chains, it is slavery via checkbook.

That is what went wrong with the welfare system as orchestrated under the LBJ administration. That lack of productive work and the personal satisfaction effectively killed the persons inner being. A professional victim is never a happy or satisfied person. That is how you end up with Gary, Indiana, Detroit, Michigan, Batlimore, MA, and hundreds of other cities where civilization and society are in complete failure.

We already had a poor relief program that worked. It was the WPA and CCC programs. They required self discipline, they required work that was rewarded with just enough money to maintain life. It also did not crush the mans soul and allowed him the satisfaction of a good days work. Some people absorbed some job experience that increased their market value with an additional skill set. The genius of the program was that it paid low enough that anyone that could find a job outside the program did, so the program faded away naturally. The left hates that program because it takes away their role as plantation master.

 

[foszoe]

It's the market response to the left's BS and their effort to derail our economy for further control....and it's working.

I'm retired but was bored so I picked up a part time job just over 2 years ago, making 9 bucks an hour; I was happy. (I will not reveal my employer) After about 8 months the company raised their starting pay to $10/hr. Cool I'm happier! About 3 weeks ago my boss called me over and said I was getting a dollar raise! A week later my boss said I was getting ANOTHER dollar raise!

What was explained to me was the economy was changing (my words) and it was hard to keep good workers. Other places are offering up to $15/hr and more, and they did not want me to leave. I was not the only one, there were quite a few that were talked to and received raises.

The left wants to raise minimum wages and they get resistance. They see a golden opportunity to pay people to stay away from work and hurt the job market, thus hurting the economy. Companies raise their starting pay and give current employees a raise to stay. Withiout passing a minimum wage law, government gets what it wants.

The left seeminly always wins, one way or another. The raise I received will allow me to pay towards the inflation (recession?) we will experience from all raises in wages. Who wins? Government....they get to tax all this growth in income.

Who will pay for all this? We, the people lose; again.

Most people I know view a raise as a good thing.