City to install cameras that record license plate numbers

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City to install cameras that record license plate numbers

The 12 automatic license plate recognition cameras will be installed within the next two months at six intersections.

www.wilx.com

 

[1gunaholic]

Greenwood has them, and it was just posted that Franklin is doing the same. Big Brother is definitely spreading out.

 

[bwframe]

Greenwood has them, and it was just posted that Franklin is doing the same. Big Brother is definitely spreading out.

Thanks. Are their Indiana legal countermeasures we can take?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Thanks. Are their Indiana legal countermeasures we can take?

I don't think so. Your license plate is clearly visible to the public, so you have no expectation of privacy.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Really no different than the readers they use on the toll bridges over the Ohio river to bill you for using them.

 

[Biggredchev]

Thanks. Are their Indiana legal countermeasures we can take?

Anti-photo/radar license plate cover and no its not legal.

In my experience theyre kind of like dark window tint, some cops care im guessing, ive just never met one. A guy i know may or may not have them on a vehicle or two along with less than legal window tint.

 

[bwframe]

Anti-photo/radar license plate cover and no its not legal
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In my experience theyre kind of like dark window tint, some cops care, some cops dont.

Yes, that's what I was speaking of. Seen them years back for traffic camera/toll booth cam detection?

Wonder what the fine is for one of these? Is it worth the risk?

 

[jsharmon7]

Anti-photo/radar license plate cover and no its not legal.
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In my experience theyre kind of like dark window tint, some cops care im guessing, ive just never met one. A guy i know may or may not have them on a vehicle or two along with less than legal window tint.

So it only blocks tech devices from reading it? If an LEO can read it, then it’s fine. As long as it’s not obstructed or obscured by opaque objects, and in a condition to be clearly legible, you’re good to go.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

So it only blocks tech devices from reading it? If an LEO can read it, then it’s fine. As long as it’s not obstructed or obscured by opaque objects, and in a condition to be clearly legible, you’re good to go.

How would that be legal, particularly in the case where the readers are used to assess tolls? That seems like it would be tantamount to blocking LEO from seeing it.

 

[jsharmon7]

How would that be legal, particularly in the case where the readers are used to assess tolls? That seems like it would be tantamount to blocking LEO from seeing it.

LEO isn’t the one assessing the tolls maybe? I’m not knowledgeable about toll roads, but I can’t find any statute that says what was posted above is illegal. As long as an officer can read it, it seems like it’s legal. If anyone has a statute that deals with it, I’d appreciate it being referenced so I can see it too.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

LEO isn’t the one assessing the tolls maybe? I’m not knowledgeable about toll roads, but I can’t find any statute that says what was posted above is illegal. As long as an officer can read it, it seems like it’s legal. If anyone has a statute that deals with it, I’d appreciate it being referenced so I can see it too.

No, LEO isn't assessing the tolls, but the readers are being relied upon for the toll bridges going between Indiana and Kentucky (and other places), so I think denying the readers' ability to read your plate would be just like blowing through a toll booth without paying. I can't imagine that being legal.

 

[Sylvain]

Thanks. Are their Indiana legal countermeasures we can take?

Are angle grinders legal in Indiana?

We have a lot of speed cameras over here, or cameras that flash you if you run a red light.

They tend to "fall off" during the night.

It happens everywhere ...

They are "new generation" cameras, on a mast, to make them harder to destroy.

The older generation was placed direction on the ground and had the off habit of catching fire.
Or it was taped with trash bags, covered with paint etc.

 

[Sylvain]

Really no different than the readers they use on the toll bridges over the Ohio river to bill you for using them.

We had a similar system on some highways here in France, cameras to read licence places to pay a fee.

They were all destroyed with fire (during the day, in front of the police) ... they collapsed and blocked the highways.

They are no longer used.

 

[bwframe]

That's great!

Seems as if I remember when the traffic light camera craze started, that a lot of revenue hungry municipalities that were quick to install them also pretty quickly quit monitoring them? Under extreme presser from their constituents?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

We had a similar system on some highways here in France, cameras to read licence places to pay a fee.

They were all destroyed with fire (during the day, in front of the police) ... they collapsed and blocked the highways.

They are no longer used.

Wow! You guys really don't like speeding tickets and tolls over there!

 

[Biggredchev]

Yes, that's what I was speaking of. Seen them years back for traffic camera/toll booth cam detection?

Wonder what the fine is for one of these? Is it worth the risk?

I have no idea what the penalty is, they are completely legible from the rear but at angles greater than 10ish degrees they arent so legible.

 

[Sylvain]

Wow! You guys really don't like speeding tickets and tolls over there!

Apparently 75% our speed cameras ( we have some 3,200 all over France) were destroyed or out of order in 2020.

It's like a national sports.
They even caught police officers, who stopped on the side of the road, in uniform, in order to destroy speed cameras.

Hunters like to shoot them.

People have used diggers.

Usually it's just done with fire, angle grinders, paint, sledge hammers etc.

For the holyday season some people wrap them up like gifts ...

 

[Ingomike]

That's great!

Seems as if I remember when the traffic light camera craze started, that a lot of revenue hungry municipalities that were quick to install them also pretty quickly quit monitoring them? Under extreme presser from their constituents?

Most were a stop camera partnership with the camera company that fell apart when it was discovered, that like the mob, the camera company rigged the game by shorting the yellow light times. Once state legislators updated the laws to allow for a minimum yellow light the scheme went bankrupt…

 

[jsharmon7]

No, LEO isn't assessing the tolls, but the readers are being relied upon for the toll bridges going between Indiana and Kentucky (and other places), so I think denying the readers' ability to read your plate would be just like blowing through a toll booth without paying. I can't imagine that being legal.

Doesn’t seem like it, but I can’t find anything about it specifically.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Doesn’t seem like it, but I can’t find anything about it specifically.

Nothing on the books about avoiding tolls illegally? Pretty sure it at least gets you a ticket if you're caught.