Carry Permit wait time in Gary Indiana, 5 Months, just to meet with Police department and transmit the records.

[XbigcheezX]

We bought my wife her very first 9mm sidearm a few weeks ago. She went through all the steps on her own to get her Lifetime License to Carry a Handgun, something many of us have already and don't think too much about once we have done it. Fill our forms, get your prints, go to the local police department.

The very last step, going into our local PD to pay them $50, and have them transmit the records to the state. We were told we need to make an appointment, and the next available appointment was May 7th (this was over a week ago). When I made the appointment, the clerk was very helpful, and explained that because of COVID, Indiana had waived the fees for a 5 year license, and that has created a significant increase in appointments for people requesting a license. She was very helpful and explained that they dedicate 4 hours every day to process these applications, and they take 15 minutes each.

Just wanted to share what we are dealing with in NWI to get a permit at the moment. Wish we had done it sooner.

Curious what it's like in other parts of the state right now?

 

[NHT3]

Maybe I misunderstood but if you were told the free permit was because of Covid that is simply not true as you can see. It was passed 4-19 before there was any knowledge of Covid. Me being Doubting Thomas, that would make me question anything else I was told there.

On April 26, 2019, Indiana HB 1284 became Public Law 107. The bill was a major reform of firearm carry law in Indiana. One of the reforms was free five-year permits for the carry of handguns in Indiana, after 1 July, 2020. Most of the reforms went into effect immediately when the bill became law.
Also written in the law
Complete local law enforcement (sheriff or municipal police) agency processing within 180 days.

Sounds like they need to dedicate more time and resources to process permits. They should have been aware the rush was coming since April of 19. Just my

 

[KellyinAvon]

We bought my wife her very first 9mm sidearm a few weeks ago. She went through all the steps on her own to get her Lifetime License to Carry a Handgun, something many of us have already and don't think too much about once we have done it. Fill our forms, get your prints, go to the local police department.

The very last step, going into our local PD to pay them $50, and have them transmit the records to the state. We were told we need to make an appointment, and the next available appointment was May 7th (this was over a week ago). When I made the appointment, the clerk was very helpful, and explained that because of COVID, Indiana had waived the fees for a 5 year license, and that has created a significant increase in appointments for people requesting a license. She was very helpful and explained that they dedicate 4 hours every day to process these applications, and they take 15 minutes each.

Just wanted to share what we are dealing with in NWI to get a permit at the moment. Wish we had done it sooner.

Curious what it's like in other parts of the state right now?

COVID had nothing to due with no State/Local fees on the 5 year license (to carry a handgun, LTCH.) That was a law that passed in 2019, the no fee part went into affect 1 July 2020.

7 May??? For local processing? Big BS flag up here. 7 March would be ridiculous as well. Lower right of The 2A Project link has a contact box. Send Guy a note.

The 2A Project

the2aproject.com

Current LTCH Wait; 2nd Edition

Part 2. And go. Previous Edition. https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/6875-current-ltch-wait.html

www.indianagunowners.com

 

[KARP]

My brother started the process for the 5 year license at the end of September 2020, he received his permit in the middle of January 2021.

 

[Lushamania]

Well, Lake County is extremely populous. I hope, for you and your wife's sake, that this is simply an "under-promise, over-deliver" customer service tactic.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

They are selling you snake oil, big.

1. The 5 year license is free because of legislation passed in 2019.

2. Covid has nothing to do with the "waiver" of any fees, again, it is the law. Clerks or Sheriff or the Gary Police cannot "waive" any fees either.

3. Applications do not take "15 minutes" to process. They are slow walking things to jam up the process in Lake County and that is a crying shame.

 

[marvin02]

Applications do not take "15 minutes" to process. They are slow walking things to jam up the process in Lake County and that is a crying shame.

I'll say that in my personal experience 15 minutes is about right. I dealt with the Lake County Sheriff, but from the time I handed my paperwork to the clerk until the time I got it back was pretty close to that. I was the only person there at that time for an LTCH and I could see the person working at the computer doing the processing. My paperwork did not just sit while I was waiting. This was pre-covid.

What is a reasonable amount of resources to dedicate to LTCH processing? My math says Gary is processing 300 per week with a backlog of 6,000.

 

[Alamo]

I know how to cut the processing time to zero.

 

[NHT3]

I'll say that in my personal experience 15 minutes is about right. I dealt with the Lake County Sheriff, but from the time I handed my paperwork to the clerk until the time I got it back was pretty close to that. I was the only person there at that time for an LTCH and I could see the person working at the computer doing the processing. My paperwork did not just sit while I was waiting. This was pre-covid.

What is a reasonable amount of resources to dedicate to LTCH processing? My math says Gary is processing 300 per week with a backlog of 6,000.

8 hours a day instead of 4 hours would be a good start if they are that far behind? OR how about another person to process the apps? Hard to believe any government agency is understaffed in the office area. I doubt there's an excess of road deputies but office help is normally abundant where government is concerned.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I know how to cut the processing time to zero.

We'll still need one for when we cross the State line to the north, east, or west, but I like what you're saying.

 

[XbigcheezX]

This is helpful, are there any other options, like going to other PD in the county or the Sherriff?

 

[marvin02]

@XbigcheezX, you have to go to your local pd. If you reside in the Gary city limits you go to the Gary PD. I was lucky and while I have a Gary mailing address I live in Calumet Twp. I got to deal with the county sheriff's dept.

 

[actaeon277]

5 months?

I might start finding a way to make waves.
A right delayed, is a right denied.

 

[DEAIV]

We bought my wife her very first 9mm sidearm a few weeks ago. She went through all the steps on her own to get her Lifetime License to Carry a Handgun, something many of us have already and don't think too much about once we have done it. Fill our forms, get your prints, go to the local police department.

The very last step, going into our local PD to pay them $50, and have them transmit the records to the state. We were told we need to make an appointment, and the next available appointment was May 7th (this was over a week ago). When I made the appointment, the clerk was very helpful, and explained that because of COVID, Indiana had waived the fees for a 5 year license, and that has created a significant increase in appointments for people requesting a license. She was very helpful and explained that they dedicate 4 hours every day to process these applications, and they take 15 minutes each.

Just wanted to share what we are dealing with in NWI to get a permit at the moment. Wish we had done it sooner.

Curious what it's like in other parts of the state right now?

My fiancé is currently in the process of getting hers. We live in Marion county, and it’s the same deal. Her appointment landed on a voting day back in November when there was a 5+ hour wait just to get into the city county building. So she had to make another appointment that lands in mid June. Which is just outrageous, almost like they’re infringing upon her 2nd amendment right.

 

[actaeon277]

Remember this, when people ask what the big deal is, waiting for a license.

When they wonder why we want "Constitutional Carry"

 

[NHT3]

My fiancé is currently in the process of getting hers. We live in Marion county, and it’s the same deal. Her appointment landed on a voting day back in November when there was a 5+ hour wait just to get into the city county building. So she had to make another appointment that lands in mid June. Which is just outrageous, almost like they’re infringing upon her 2nd amendment right.

As an aside, If you live in Johnson county they will process your app 24/7. The difference is having a Sheriff that cares about the people in his district VS someone that is concerned about the criminals. Thank you Sheriff Burgess

 

[2A-Hoosier23]

Remember this, when people ask what the big deal is, waiting for a license.

When they wonder why we want "Constitutional Carry"

I have gotten in so many ridiculous fear based arguments over this. They simply can't grasp the fact that one can buy and possess a handgun without the pink card... most of the time we don't even get to the part about the waiting times and hoops one commonly has to jump through. There are some exceptions who can argue reasonably. Such is life in a "blue bubble" campus town.

 

[DEAIV]

As an aside, If you live in Johnson county they will process your app 24/7. The difference is having a Sheriff that cares about the people in his district VS someone that is concerned about the criminals. Thank you Sheriff Burgess

I’m so close to Johnson county, I wish I would have left Marion county when I moved about 6 months ago. Highly regret it. Ideally I’d like to just move to Texas or Florida in the future, I’m over the winters here.

 

[Indyhd]

I just got off the phone with my daughter who works for Fort Wayne PD and she said she does the processing and could have one done in 5-15 minutes depending on what pops up on you when she enters you in the computer. She did tell me that they only process applications on a specific shift and it rotates each month. This month second shift processes applications and next month it will be third shift, so depending on when you come in it may take 24 hours. Every municipality does theirs differently, sorry you are stuck in a shi**y local.

 

[actaeon277]

I would say contact your Representative or Senator. But since they're both very anti-gun, I don't see that happening.

Anyone have any better ideas on who to call to light a fire on this?