Canning supplies returning?

[dprimm]

One positive of this Covid is I learned to can. A question for those that went through supply shortages before. Do you see lids being available again in the spring?

I want to bulk buy but the manufacturers have not updated their websites since CV sellouts. I am trying a set of the reusable Tattler lids. But want metal for longer term storage.

jars are another need. Those I see returning. Really hope to find used ones.

trying to plan. Increased garden by more than 300%. Kid discovered he loves home canned green bean (I do not).

lots to get ready for. Just trying to stay in the budget w planning ahead.

 

[spencer rifle]

Lids are still tight. LOL. Tattlers we have and a problem with. They are certainly reusable, but the failure rate is higher than 2nd and 3rd time reused metal lids. I know, they tell us not to reuse metal lids, but they seem to work well if they are in good shape and removed carefully.

Lid makers are blaming a tin shortage. If they are the same people who make sheet metal for primers, I can see why the shortage! All we can do at present is show up at garage/estate sales and check thrift stores, being ready to snap up any lids and jars present. Now there is more competition than in years past.

 

[actaeon277]

Lids are still tight. LOL. Tattlers we have and a problem with. They are certainly reusable, but the failure rate is higher than 2nd and 3rd time reused metal lids. I know, they tell us not to reuse metal lids, but they seem to work well if they are in good shape and removed carefully.

Lid makers are blaming a tin shortage. If they are the same people who make sheet metal for primers, I can see why the shortage! All we can do at present is show up at garage/estate sales and check thrift stores, being ready to snap up any lids and jars present. Now there is more competition than in years past.

COVID shut down a lot of steel production.
My mill had one casting line running, out of four.
And we were mostly making D&I steel used in cans.

 

[turnerdye1]

Keep checking Walmart and grocery stores. I’ve seen lids about once a month so I grab a box and move on. They don’t last long though. Just gotta keep checking

 

[dprimm]

COVID shut down a lot of steel production.
My mill had one casting line running, out of four.
And we were mostly making D&I steel used in cans.

Is your mill back to full production?

I deal w DoD stuff and that did not shut down. Know other areas were tight.

 

[actaeon277]

We're back up, when autos started being sold.
Probably not a full 100 percent in production, but facilities are back up.
A LOT of what we do us automotive. The new metals in the safety cages are the BIG ticket item. Mostly newer metals, difficult to make, lots of wear and tear on machinery.
We make something like a thousand different grades. Kitchenware and toasters to high tech safety auto safety cages, and lots of D&I for food cans.

The D&I was what kept me employed.
Lots of cans being made then. And we were making approx 400,000 tons per hour.

 

[ChootEm]

The ACE Hardware in Noblesville has a couple of cases of lids sitting on the shelf.....just an FYI

 

[PistolBob]

I have been looking for wide mouth pints since September. I have plenty of lids and new jars usually come with lids...but the wide mouth pints have been unobtainium....they are perfect for canned meat loaf, beef, chicken, and pork

 

[jerrob]

I have been looking for wide mouth pints since September. I have plenty of lids and new jars usually come with lids...but the wide mouth pints have been unobtainium....they are perfect for canned meat loaf, beef, chicken, and pork

I agree, and the same lids and rings are interchangeable with WM quarts.
PM sent PB

 

[Magyars]

Rural king in Muncie had the 12 pack large opening jars with lids and seals.
Remember you also need water bath or pressure cooker... depending on what your canning....suregel for jams, etc.......ball blue book....funnel, sieve, a jar grabber thingy......probably more, should ask my wife for complete list

 

[PistolBob]

I agree, and the same lids and rings are interchangeable with WM quarts.
PM sent PB

Yup! I like to standardize on the WM jars so I only have to have one kind of lid.

 

[philo]

Lids at menards yesterday

 

[2in1evtime]

Picked up 2 cases of pints at walmart yesterday, they had no quarts or lids though, did have several half pint cases though.

 

[nmcampbe]

Dollar General stores normally get Great Harvest brand lids here about anytime. I’d keep an eye out for them once they start putting out the spring related items. They used to be 1.25 for a box of 12. No wide mouth though. I’ve checked my local Menards but the shelves are still bare in the canning section.

 

[bwframe]

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I got a hundred of these back in December. Have not tested them yet, but no reason to question.

The listing says they are back in Feb 11th.

I didn't order more on the idea that I still have six dozen new jars w/lids and hundreds of once used lids.

I have had the same results as spencer rifle with reusing lids. About the same success rate as new lids.

I err on the side of new lids when they are readily available, but I've been eating out of a case of green bean quarts with second use lids from last year. Testing 100%, so far.

 

[spencer rifle]

Agreed. I don't like reusing lids, but necessity being a mother and all...

Some of our lids have 3 labels, as I've said. But never ones that get mutilated in removal, or have cracks/flaws/missing pieces in the red rubber rim. At one point our sons had a plan to reuse old lids to make scale armor. They never did get around to it.

 

[bwframe]

Agreed. I don't like reusing lids, but necessity being a mother and all...

Some of our lids have 3 labels, as I've said. But never ones that get mutilated in removal, or have cracks/flaws/missing pieces in the red rubber rim. At one point our sons had a plan to reuse old lids to make scale armor. They never did get around to it.

First few years that I had my All American pressure canner, I canned a lot. I was always out of lids, and it just didn't make sense to keep throwing money at lids and lids and lids. In those early canning years, I reused lids frequently. Sure, once in a while you lose a seal, the same as with new lids.

I was trying to track how many uses on them at one time. I kinda gave that up and based reuse on inspection. Now days, with hundreds of used lids stored, I do whole canning sessions with reused lids and toss them as the product is used.

 

[dprimm]

I scored 5 boxes of lids. Will try reusing as well. Gotta keep getting jars. Lots of garden is planned for canning. I have not yet talked myself into a second canner but probably should. When stuff is ready you can’t wait.

 

[dnurk]

amazon.com/gp/product/B08KW13KYR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I got a hundred of these back in December. Have not tested them yet, but no reason to question.

The listing says they are back in Feb 11th.

I didn't order more on the idea that I still have six dozen new jars w/lids and hundreds of once used lids.

I have had the same results as spencer rifle with reusing lids. About the same success rate as new lids.

I err on the side of new lids when they are readily available, but I've been eating out of a case of green bean quarts with second use lids from last year. Testing 100%, so far.

I used some of those last Fall and they’re Chinese made junk. 60 percent failure at least and lots of buckling. Look at the reviews and you’ll see others with the same issue. Would not recommend these or the other ones from Chinese sellers.

 

[dprimm]

I used some of those last Fall and they’re Chinese made junk.

heard that on a canning group. Will buy a sleeve from us company direct if they start offering them again.