Can An Air Rifle Bring Down A Whitetail?

[Twangbanger]

Has anyone gotten 4,500 psi air fills from an industrial gas supplier? I've never thought to ask them what their highest charge pressure is.

 

[tbhausen]

Do you know any firemen? I’ve heard of them being able to fill tanks for air gunners.

 

[bwframe]

Do you know any firemen? I’ve heard of them being able to fill tanks for air gunners.

This is good to know. There's a fire station a couple miles around the corner from me.

Now to find a decent deal on a tank...


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[tbhausen]

There’s a fair amount to know about tanks, certifications, which are legal to fill, all that regulatory stuff. There’s a good article on the pyramyd air website about them.

 

[JLB768]

https://www.airforceairguns.com/The-Texan-by-AirForce-Airguns-s/118.htm

I believe the .457 and .510 are legal for deer in Indiana this year

TexanLSS - CF Series

AirForce Airguns, the first manufacturer of Pre-Charged Pneumatic Air Rifles (PCP) in the U.S., has been making precision rifles for many years, developing the most technologically advanced airgun shooting system in the world. Known for their flexibility and legendary accuracy, AirForce Airguns...

www.airforceairguns.com

 

[Timjoebillybob]

This is good to know. There's a fire station a couple miles around the corner from me.

Now to find a decent deal on a tank...


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You could probably get them filled at a scuba supply shop. Like this one just south of Bloomington.

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba we fill air nitrox and CO2. We fill paintball cylinders as well as scuba cylinder

southernindianascuba.com

 

[BE Mike]

You could probably get them filled at a scuba supply shop. Like this one just south of Bloomington.

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba we fill air nitrox and CO2. We fill paintball cylinders as well as scuba cylinder

southernindianascuba.com

I have a scuba tank that I fill the cylinders for the Morini 162EI air pistol I have. I get the scuba tank filled at the local scuba shop. Compressed air for scuba tanks is dry air which is supposed to be a plus for air guns.

 

[Twangbanger]

You could probably get them filled at a scuba supply shop. Like this one just south of Bloomington.

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba

Air, Nitrox, & CO2 Fills - Southern Indiana Scuba we fill air nitrox and CO2. We fill paintball cylinders as well as scuba cylinder

southernindianascuba.com

"Air up to 3000 psi" is the problem, because that's the 200 Bar operating pressure most non-target guns are designed to operate at. The industry is producing carbon tanks rated to 4500 psi, so you can get a decent number of fills to your gun, but so far I haven't found anyplace that fills to that pressure. From what I can tell, if you have a gun with 200cc or larger onboard capacity (ie, don't want to foot-pump that much volume) and that operates at 200 bar, it becomes a DIY proposition and you need a compressor.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

"Air up to 3000 psi" is the problem, because that's the 200 Bar operating pressure most non-target guns are designed to operate at. The industry is producing carbon tanks rated to 4500 psi, so you can get a decent number of fills to your gun, but so far I haven't found anyplace that fills to that pressure. From what I can tell, if you have a gun with 200cc or larger onboard capacity (ie, don't want to foot-pump that much volume) and that operates at 200 bar, it becomes a DIY proposition and you need a compressor.

They do up to 4.5k psi. The up to 3k that is shown is just the price for that psi. If you click on the link is shows prices for up to 3k, 3.1-3.5k and 3501-4.5k. Also prices for co2 and nitrox fills.

 

[Twangbanger]

They do up to 4.5k psi. The up to 3k that is shown is just the price for that psi. If you click on the link is shows prices for up to 3k, 3.1-3.5k and 3501-4.5k. Also prices for co2 and nitrox fills.

Very helpful...thanks!

 

[JLB768]

You can buy pcp airgun compressors on amazon. I charge my R10 to 232 Bar on my compressor, which can do 300Bar/4500psi.

 

[tbhausen]

I bought this compressor. Good for 4400 psi, and the $1200 only hurts once:

Air Venturi EC-3000 Compressor, 4350 PSI | Airgun Depot

Check out this great deal on the Air Venturi EC-3000 Compressor, 4350 PSI. Need advice? Let our airgun specialists help you today!

www.airgundepot.com

 

[Twangbanger]

This is where you really have to trust your technology. 4,500 psi is a little creepy to me. This past Fourth of July, I bought one of those "kaboom target thingies" consisting of a check valve with a schrader inlet and seal, that you screw onto a 2-liter bottle, allowing you to pressurize it to 120 psi with your bike pump, shoot it with an airgun, and hear the resulting kaboom.

I chickened out and just pumped it up to 110 psi the first time. Pfoosh! No boom. Not enough pressure.

On my next attempt at 120 psi, I used a different brand of soda bottle. It cut loose right next to my feet at 115 psi. Folks, I want to tell you I was stunned for a second or two. I can still feel the sensation of that pressure wave propagating up into my sinus cavities. The bottle completely disappeared in front of my eyes, and re-appeared behind a clump of grass 15 feet away. When I went in the house, my wife said, "Geezus, what was that, the neighbors are gonna call the cops!"

Pumping something up to 4,000 psi...static pressure...repeatedly...dang.

 

[hoosierdaddy1976]

This is where you really have to trust your technology. 4,500 psi is a little creepy to me. This past Fourth of July, I bought one of those "kaboom target thingies" consisting of a check valve with a schrader inlet and seal, that you screw onto a 2-liter bottle, allowing you to pressurize it to 120 psi with your bike pump, shoot it with an airgun, and hear the resulting kaboom.

I chickened out and just pumped it up to 110 psi the first time. Pfoosh! No boom. Not enough pressure.

On my next attempt at 120 psi, I used a different brand of soda bottle. It cut loose right next to my feet at 115 psi. Folks, I want to tell you I was stunned for a second or two. I can still feel the sensation of that pressure wave propagating up into my sinus cavities. The bottle completely disappeared in front of my eyes, and re-appeared behind a clump of grass 15 feet away. When I went in the house, my wife said, "Geezus, what was that, the neighbors are gonna call the cops!"

Pumping something up to 4,000 psi...static pressure...repeatedly...dang.

To quote tbhausen, it "only hurts once."

 

[tbhausen]

This is where you really have to trust your technology. 4,500 psi is a little creepy to me. This past Fourth of July, I bought one of those "kaboom target thingies" consisting of a check valve with a schrader inlet and seal, that you screw onto a 2-liter bottle, allowing you to pressurize it to 120 psi with your bike pump, shoot it with an airgun, and hear the resulting kaboom.

I chickened out and just pumped it up to 110 psi the first time. Pfoosh! No boom. Not enough pressure.

On my next attempt at 120 psi, I used a different brand of soda bottle. It cut loose right next to my feet at 115 psi. Folks, I want to tell you I was stunned for a second or two. I can still feel the sensation of that pressure wave propagating up into my sinus cavities. The bottle completely disappeared in front of my eyes, and re-appeared behind a clump of grass 15 feet away. When I went in the house, my wife said, "Geezus, what was that, the neighbors are gonna call the cops!"

Pumping something up to 4,000 psi...static pressure...repeatedly...dang.

That sounds pretty scary. I wouldn’t do that. My air gun, however, has been standing in my closet with over 4000 psi in it since I bought it, so no problem with trusting that technology.

 

[baranjhn]

Here is a great video about deer hunting with a .457 pistol.

Can a .457 Big Bore Airgun Pistol Harvest a Deer?

Can a .457 Big Bore Airgun Pistol Harvest a Deer?

www.airgun101.com

 

[SpartanYeti]

Indiana now has an airgun availablity season for deer hunting.

I had not seen or heard of this yet! Maybe the reason I actually invest in a big bore high powered air rifle. They have intrigued me but since I couldn't hunt with one I didn't want to make the investment just for a range toy.

 

[rugertoter]

IIRC, doesn't the bigger the bore mean the less shot, until filling?

I was fairly seriously thinking about one of the .357 bullpups, but only 10-11 shots until fill needed kind of shied me off?


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I see what you mean, but these aren't really the type that you spend a day plinking with either.

 

[JLB768]

That sounds pretty scary. I wouldn’t do that. My air gun, however, has been standing in my closet with over 4000 psi in it since I bought it, so no problem with trusting that technology.

Same here, charged it last fall before putting it up, aint lost a single lb of air.

 

[Thomas1969]

They have some very impressive air guns these days.

What’s amazing is an air gun that is as powerful as a firearm isn’t regulated much at all (as it should be in my opinion) so you have to ask “is gun control worth it / effective?”