Big Problems if Trump is Indicted

[1DOWN4UP]

Sir, you really need to drop the KKK argument from your quiver. For all intents and purposes, the KKK is dead, and has been for several decades. There is maybe a thousand or two active members out of, what, 200 million white Americans? And in my 60 plus years, living in the North and the south, I've never met one person who supported anything to do with the KKK.

It's a specious argument. Let It die it's proper death.

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Six Democrats started it,and now their party WON'T let it die.

 

[KG1]

I think that's true too. Back in the late 70s when I was in high school a lot of dudes had that flag on their trucks. It probably was a symbol of rebellion. But you bring up a good point. I don't recall any of them speaking of the flag as being the confederate battle flag. They just called it the rebel flag. But trendy progressives will step into conversations and assert that it has to be what they say it is. I dunno. Probably because they saw it on CNN.

Like I said, I don't really give a flying **** about the flag itself. I don't own one, and would not buy one. I'm not culturally Southern. I'm certainly not a Confederate sympathizer. What I care about is bigots obstinately associating an entire region of people as members of a hate group, based on some common behavior. In my experience there are way more people who identify with the rebel flag for cultural reasons that have nothing to do with racism.

I agree. I think the point to be empathized here is that It could be a symbol of rebellion for some or a symbol of southern cultural pride for others. It's not all about racism.

Oh and I went to high school in the 70's too and there were some rebel flag stickers as well. I believe that it was a cool symbol of rebellion for some kids and they didn't exhibit any racial motivation nor was it perceived that way. I think some just did it because they liked Lynyrd Skynyrd.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Curtis Loew was a personal friend of mine.

 

[KG1]

The way I personally feel about confederate battle flags that are flown by a minority of overall MAGA supporters at Trump rallies is that it's a needless distraction. I just don't see it as something that furthers the movement. That's my opinion.

 

[Flash-hider]

I would agree with that. I think also that some of those northerners just see it as a cool rebellious thing to do. "I'm gonna fly the rebel flag because I want to be rebellious." To them it's just a symbol of rebellion.

This is how I look at it, nothing more, nothing less. The bonus was it attracted a certain demographic of female that liked to party and go skinny dipping in Lake Michigan.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think that's true too. Back in the late 70s when I was in high school a lot of dudes had that flag on their trucks. It probably was a symbol of rebellion. But you bring up a good point. I don't recall any of them speaking of the flag as being the confederate battle flag. They just called it the rebel flag. But trendy progressives will step into conversations and assert that it has to be what they say it is. I dunno. Probably because they saw it on CNN.

Like I said, I don't really give a flying **** about the flag itself. I don't own one, and would not buy one. I'm not culturally Southern. I'm certainly not a Confederate sympathizer. What I care about is bigots obstinately associating an entire region of people as members of a hate group. In my experience there are way more people who identify with the rebel flag for cultural reasons that have nothing to do with racism.

Ironic, ain’t it? A few people using certain flags and known for doing violence under them are terrible and all vestiages of those flags must be removed from public sight. People using certain other flags and known for doing violence under them are raised up as victim-heroes and those flags will be waving from every business, school, and church for the month of June.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The demand for racism far exceeds its supply.

A problem solved is a political issue lost.

 

[rhamersley]

I agree. I think the point to be empathized here is that It could be a symbol of rebellion for some or a symbol of southern cultural pride for others. It's not all about racism.

Oh and I went to high school in the 70's too and there were some rebel flag stickers as well. I believe that it was a cool symbol of rebellion for some kids and they didn't exhibit any racial motivation nor was it perceived that way. I think some just did it because they liked Lynyrd Skynyrd.

And ”The Dukes of Hazzard” didn’t hurt its appeal, either.

 

[jamil]

Ironic, ain’t it? A few people using certain flags and known for doing violence under them are terrible and all vestiages of those flags must be removed from public sight. People using certain other flags and known for doing violence under them are raised up as victim-heroes and those flags will be waving from every business, school, and church for the month of June.

Look what happened to the okay symbol as the secret hand sign white nationalists make to each other. The so called autists of 4chan made it all up to troll activist progressives. People got booted from baseball games for crying out loud. Because they’re gullible.

 

[rhamersley]

Look what happened to the okay symbol as the secret hand sign white nationalists make to each other. The so called autists of 4chan made it all up to troll activist progressives. People got booted from baseball games for crying out loud. Because they’re gullible.

 

[jamil]

A problem solved is a political issue lost.

True. It works multiple ways. Beware of Republicans, especially those with turtle heads, holding up a musket in a photo op to signal their 2A solidarity. They talk a fair game. Make promises. Fundraise off those promises. But if they work a little too hard in office and accidentally solve it, they can’t fundraise off it next time.

 

[jamil]

And ”The Dukes of Hazzard” didn’t hurt its appeal, either.

And dukes of hazard were not depicted as racists.

 

[Ingomike]

Ironic, ain’t it? A few people using certain flags and known for doing violence under them are terrible and all vestiages of those flags must be removed from public sight. People using certain other flags and known for doing violence under them are raised up as victim-heroes and those flags will be waving from every business, school, and church for the month of June.

It is rarely mentioned but swastika’s are all over buildings and art from before WWII…

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

... The bonus was it attracted a certain demographic of female that liked to party and go skinny dipping in Lake Michigan.

^^^ THIS ^^^

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

True. It works multiple ways. Beware of Republicans, especially those with turtle heads, holding up a musket in a photo op to signal their 2A solidarity. They talk a fair game. Make promises. Fundraise off those promises. But if they work a little too hard in office and accidentally solve it, they can’t fundraise off it next time.

Exactly.

 

[BugI02]

Okay so some people use that as a racist symbol, that means all uses are racist. I think you should spend some time in the South.

This ^^^

He also seems quite blissfully unaware that other symbols, specifically the swastika, have been in use worldwide for centuries - including by the Dineh in the American SW

The fact that Hitler and Nazis chose to bastardize a symbol of good fortune for their own purposes should not condemn the symbol, only its misuse

The confederate battle flag is not the problem, only the twisted ideas that some wish to associate it with

Same thing with guns, the gun isn't the problem. The problem is its misuse by people with twisted minds

At heart, the leftist worldview is unable to countenance any notions but its own pre-conceived ones as legitimate or correct

 

[1DOWN4UP]

This is how I look at it, nothing more, nothing less. The bonus was it attracted a certain demographic of female that liked to party and go skinny dipping in Lake Michigan.

Flashbacks......

 

[BugI02]

True. It works multiple ways. Beware of Republicans, especially those with turtle heads, holding up a musket in a photo op to signal their 2A solidarity. They talk a fair game. Make promises. Fundraise off those promises. But if they work a little too hard in office and accidentally solve it, they can’t fundraise off it next time.

The same was true about politicians vis a vis abortion

'Return me to congress and next time we really will defeat that evil once and for all.' During their term pretty much do nothing to solve the issue. Run/fundraise on it again next election. Lather, rinse, repeat. Same is true on 2A issues, politicians are chameleons who color themselves according to what keeps their surroundings comfortable

 

[jamil]

The same was true about politicians vis a vis abortion

'Return me to congress and next time we really will defeat that evil once and for all.' During their term pretty much do nothing to solve the issue. Run/fundraise on it again next election. Lather, rinse, repeat. Same is true on 2A issues, politicians are chameleons who color themselves according to what keeps their surroundings comfortable

I suppose an artifact of that is that it's one less thing that Republicans can use to fleece money for their campaigns, but Democrats have a boon. I suspect there is no one happier than Nancy and Chuck, and if they had their way, would never accomplish restoring RvW and ending the perpetual influx of money.

 

[BugI02]

I suppose an artifact of that is that it's one less thing that Republicans can use to fleece money for their campaigns, but Democrats have a boon. I suspect there is no one happier than Nancy and Chuck, and if they had their way, would never accomplish restoring RvW and ending the perpetual influx of money. [and votes of the gullible]

D'accord

Does the use of a French phrase mean I'm displaying faux intellectualism? Asking for a f[ed]riend