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    Chewie

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    You have to be careful about all those things because they're "hidden". Who uncovered them? Are they just gaslighting? How did the sources that reveal all the hidden stuff discover the truth? Is it credible? Can you verify the information they gave you yourself?

    Hidden histories: if you can't verify it independently, yet you believe the hidden history "revealed", maybe you fell for something.

    True intent: This is never knowable unless the person reveals it in a credible way, for example, admitting to it when they didn't think unintended people were listening.

    False narratives: This is at least possible to uncover often enough. For example, the news reporting "hands up, don't shoot" which they're still putting forward even after the eye witness admitted to police that it really didn't happen that way.

    Ok "veiled". And just so we are absolutely clear I stated it was my biased opinion. For my opinion to change I need "verified evidence" or a compelling argument to the opposite of my opinion. Haven't heard one yet so continue to pick nits. I now you are intelligent enough to understand what I meant and you like to present ( on occasion) disagreement with either side (a good thing). But my opinion stands, both sides are guilty, and of far more than the media presents.
     

    BigRed

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    Biden sucks. He’s not the most popular POTUS in history, he wasn’t even the most popular democrat in the party. Although he may be the most popular in his psychiatric ward.


    I think it depends on who you ask.

    If you ask illegal aliens, socialists, communists, foreign adversaries, folks that want to infringe upon the natural rights documented in the second, and people who generally despise individual liberty, you will find he is quite popular.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    I think it depends on who you ask.

    If you ask illegal aliens, socialists, communists, foreign adversaries, folks that want to infringe upon the natural rights documented in the second, and people who generally despise individual liberty, you will find he is quite popular.
    I like to think we still outnumber those groups. Or, for the sake of the republic, I hope.
     

    printcraft

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    For 4 years we were told if we support trump it makes us a racist, misogynistic, nazi, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacists.

    Now it only seems fair to apply that standard to Biden supporters. If you support Biden you are anti-2A, a pedophile, and a war monger, misogynistic, racist, & white supremacist.

    FTFY given the reality of bidets history and actions.

    It's what some here voted for.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    FTFY given the reality of bidets history and actions.

    It's what some here voted for.
    I learned in high school if a girl accuses you of something it’s probably because she is.

    Seems this holds true of the political world also. Literal video of him saying racist comments. Not 1 minute of reporting on MSM.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    So, when she says you just want to get in her pants, she actually means ...

    Wow, missed opportunities
    Actually, oddly enough, yes. :laugh:


    Well. In high school anyways. It’s a little more complex in my 30s.

    Now days when she says “you just wanna get in my pants” I feel obligated to reply with “I just wanna make sure you’re the gender you claim you are”
     

    Leadeye

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    Actually, oddly enough, yes. :laugh:


    Well. In high school anyways. It’s a little more complex in my 30s.

    Now days when she says “you just wanna get in my pants” I feel obligated to reply with “I just wanna make sure you’re the gender you claim you are”

    It pays to be cautious these days.
     

    printcraft

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    foszoe

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    Wouldn't a 'microcosm in reverse' actually be a macrocosm, ie: everything else

    Saying unambiguously what you believe might go something like:


    "I believe Obama indeed met the constitutional requirements of eligibility for the office of president, despite legally enshrouding every fact about his past possible and vigorously resisting any effort to verify those requirements"

    Under no circumstances can I conceive of it looking like:

    "But the constitution doesn't specifically say he has to show a birth certificate"

    It certainly seems like you are arguing Obama was legitimate, despite a near total lack of proof
    Posts 315 and 389 would answer most of this.

    I am not making an argument Obama was legitimate.

    I am saying when accusers have a one thing uniting them, and it's not their reasons for believing him to be of foreign birth but rather political, then that's not reason enough to believe them credible.

    I would argue that the birth certificate produced met the objections of the accusers.

    Thats not the issue I am trying to explore here. The birth certificate is merely one example.

    Post 389 was my clearest post on the matter. If it needs to be more clear, respond to it.
     

    foszoe

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    FTFY given the reality of bidets history and actions.

    It's what some here voted for.
    Who here voted for it and where is the evidence to support the claim that

    If you support Biden you are anti-2A, a pedophile, and a war monger, misogynistic, racist, & white supremacist
    Any court records would do..

    Otherwise I believe the post was just trolling behavior and disrespectful.

    But don't worry a lot here will support it
     
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    jamil

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    I would say that legislating by executive fiat is outside the president's authority, no matter who they are.
    I’d generally agree with that as stated but “legislating” significantly narrows the focus because most Executive Orders aren’t “legislating”. For example, many of Bidens EO’s reversed some of Trump’s EO’s. If Trump’s EO’s were legitimate then an EO to reverse it would also be legitimate, if not foolish.
     

    T.Lex

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    In other news, roughly a week out from my starting of this thread, Biden's RCP Job Approval is up another 2 pts to ~+16. Even Trump-favoring Rasmussen has him at +2 approval.

    Even in Rasmussen, Trump wasn't often in positive territory IIRC.

    And Biden hasn't really done much to deserve the increase.
     

    foszoe

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    Agree and disagree.


    I think people are skeptical of intentions. I think, if you read through previous posts, some are done with no other intention than to stir the pot.

    For example... there was a post with a link in a thread a couple weeks ago about Biden already saying he WILL pass gun control and assault weapons. The reply was “You will probably be mad because I would happily vote for him again”. This is a gun forum first and foremost... so in a reply about an article of the president expressing his intentions to pass gun control, the reply is to tell someone “they’d be mad” because “I would happily vote for him again”? That’s obvious trolling, no matter how you frame it. That’s the type of comments that make people on edge, and they’re not going to give any respect to people who are just trying to **** in their Cheerios.


    Another thing, and I know this isn’t what we’re going for here, but every single major platform on the internet is dominated by leftists. Go on Reddit and post something positive about trump, you get banned or doxxed or trolled. Same on Twitter. Same on Facebook. Most users here don’t use any other platform because of that reason. A gun forum, that is “indiana” gun owners, is supposed to be a place where citizens of our great state go to discuss, advocate for, and defend our 2A. The mods have done an awesome job by allowing people from all over the world come here and join those talks. They allow a political section. They allow opposing views and any political preferences. They even allow us to occasionally get rowdy and bent out of shape. I don’t understand the need to come to a forum that’s dedicated to the 2A and tell people you’d happily vote for the man telling the country he’s going to ban assault weapons and regulate firearms more. That isn’t advocating for the 2A... that’s trying to rile people up, plain and simple. There’s no other reason. This is the one place many of us have on the internet to converse and discuss, to have someone intentionally throw rocks at our house every day is tiresome.



    And damn you!!!! I said I was sticking to Biden’s popularity out of respect for TLex. He probably thinks I’ve disrespected him now! Sorry Lex. I’ll add something to get back on track.

    Biden sucks. He’s not the most popular POTUS in history, he wasn’t even the most popular democrat in the party. Although he may be the most popular in his psychiatric ward.
    Well the mods could create a safe space political forum for those that desire it and mods could easily just ban the usual suspects from posting in that forum.

    Then the usual suspects could easily be known. Just like the post office most wanted list.

    Never understood why there isn't a sticky thread for all of us to check so we could know for certain whose on and off it.

    I would respect the wishes of those members and the moderators.
     

    jamil

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    For obama.... college records.
    For bidiot.....Ukraine.
    For trump.....taxes
    I would say Trumps taxes are irrelevant. Obama’s school transcripts are irrelevant. Biden’s dealings in Ukrain is potentially illegal and should have beel investigated seriously. Also it would kinda be nice to see Hunter Biden prosecuted for diddling his underage relatives.
     

    jamil

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    In other news, roughly a week out from my starting of this thread, Biden's RCP Job Approval is up another 2 pts to ~+16. Even Trump-favoring Rasmussen has him at +2 approval.

    Even in Rasmussen, Trump wasn't often in positive territory IIRC.

    And Biden hasn't really done much to deserve the increase.
    Let’s see what Biden’s ratings would be if the press called Biden literally hitler every day.
     

    printcraft

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    Who here voted for it and where is the evidence to support the claim that


    Any court records would do..

    Otherwise I believe the post was just trolling behavior and disrespectful.

    But don't worry a lot here will support it

    I haven't seen a denial from the bidet voters...


    Court records... :rofl:
     

    KG1

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    Who here voted for it and where is the evidence to support the claim that


    Any cour records would do..

    Otherwise I believe the post was just trolling behavior and disrespectful.

    But don't worry a lot here will support it
    Howbout "voted for Biden in spite of it"? In that sense you you can not put in a claim to any moral high ground based on character over those that voted for someone like Trump,
     
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    jamil

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    Again not a legal scholar....

    But wouldn't the Republican party have the most standing to sue?

    Why didn't they?

    Also, if the accusers have widely varying stories why should they have credence?

    Again I say everyone of you would want me on the jury in a capital crime case against you. Or even a civil suit where you could lose everything you worked for.
    Because Republican legislators are pussies.
     
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