Best Practices for the Every Day Armed Citizen

[cosermann]

Seems like there people new to carry on INGO these days so I thought a thread on best practices might be helpful. I could have sworn this article was posted recently, but for the life of me I can't find it, so here it is. (Apologies if I duped it.)

Each point could easily be it's own thread (and it's own class); a good outline for further study.

Best Practices – Apache Solutions

apachenc.com

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[wtburnette]

Aside for number 11 the article is very informative. 11 is purely subjective and doesn't belong on the list. Give me facts, not opinions.

 

[Denny347]

Aside for number 11 the article is very informative. 11 is purely subjective and doesn't belong on the list. Give me facts, not opinions.

The entire article is opinion, the author's opinion on what is important. You just take issue with one of the 12 opinions listed.

 

[STEEL CORE]

Anything can and will happen ,
Looks like guy in Taco place used a GLOCK, good choice IMHO.

 

[wtburnette]

The entire article is opinion, the author's opinion on what is important. You just take issue with one of the 12 opinions listed.

Yep, agreed, but the other items were objective in that they're solid advice. 11 just seemed like unnecessary opinion to me. Eh, to each their own.

 

[hoosiersasquatch]

I read the customer who shoot the robber was not charged. Since it appears he shot him from the back, wonder how that would play out in Indiana?

 

[Dwight]

I read the customer who shoot the robber was not charged. Since it appears he shot him from the back, wonder how that would play out in Indiana?

Can be sued in civil court for anything.

But, “forcible felony” in progress should help in considering criminal charges.

 

[KittySlayer]

If your choice is to conceal rather than open carry the #11 hint I found helpful early on was “stop touching your gun”. If you have a quality holster you can strap up in the morning and should not need to obsessively touch your gun throughout the day to make sure it is still there or readjust it because of a poor quality belt.

 

[ECS686]

Aside for number 11 the article is very informative. 11 is purely subjective and doesn't belong on the list. Give me facts, not opinions.

Apache Solutions is out of the Carolinas and does several classes Gunset Training in the Dayton Ohio area aka Scott Cronin. Scott is a Dave Spaulding Handgun Combatives Instructor and would not have Apache if they were not a relevant and vetted Training course.

That said pretty sure #11 was referring to running around small town Indiana. However in certain areas I’ll say #11 is a valid point.

My facts are from interviewing and interacting with criminals. I delt with inner city gang bangers from all over the country for 20 plus years. Didn’t matter if Chicago area BGD’s VL or Latin Kings or East and West Coast Bloods and Crips AB’s Mex Maf and Sureno’s Cartel members to DC Crews or Dirty South. They all have stated they look for Vehicles and Gun Apparel clad folks. These are the same criminals that are bold enough to break into police Vehicles so your Silverado with the Punisher emblem tells them everything they need to know.

Like Open carrying when you advertise most folks don’t realize how easy it is to get their gun taken and most average concealed carriers can’t fight well enough especially against someone that’s been fighting for real since they were 9 and the fact they’ve caught if guard and can’t believe that is happening to them!

 

[COOPADUP]

Not a fan of putting swag on my car. Even an NRA sticker.
Not a bad article, just take what you need out of what is written and carry on.

 

[wtburnette]

Apache Solutions is out of the Carolinas and does several classes Gunset Training in the Dayton Ohio area aka Scott Cronin. Scott is a Dave Spaulding Handgun Combatives Instructor and would not have Apache if they were not a relevant and vetted Training course.

That said pretty sure #11 was referring to running around small town Indiana. However in certain areas I’ll say #11 is a valid point.

My facts are from interviewing and interacting with criminals. I delt with inner city gang bangers from all over the country for 20 plus years. Didn’t matter if Chicago area BGD’s VL or Latin Kings or East and West Coast Bloods and Crips AB’s Mex Maf and Sureno’s Cartel members to DC Crews or Dirty South. They all have stated they look for Vehicles and Gun Apparel clad folks. These are the same criminals that are bold enough to break into police Vehicles so your Silverado with the Punisher emblem tells them everything they need to know.

Like Open carrying when you advertise most folks don’t realize how easy it is to get their gun taken and most average concealed carriers can’t fight well enough especially against someone that’s been fighting for real since they were 9 and the fact they’ve caught if guard and can’t believe that is happening to them!

Agree that time and place are important. Also if you are going to open carry, doing so in a proper retention holster is important. I CC most of the time myself, but see OC as a viable choice when done correctly.

 

[COOPADUP]

Open carry can still be concealed carry if your apparel is planned in advance. This time of year is an excellent time to open carry. IMO

 

[wtburnette]

Open carry can still be concealed carry if your apparel is planned in advance. This time of year is an excellent time to open carry. IMO

I consider that situational carry...

I always carry OWB. Normally it's under a extra large T-shirt, but in this weather it's under a heavy sweatshirt, or jacket that stays unzipped. Only becomes OC if I'm at a restaurant or something for an extended time and remove my cover garment.

 

[COOPADUP]

I consider that situational carry...

I always carry OWB. Normally it's under a extra large T-shirt, but in this weather it's under a heavy sweatshirt, or jacket that stays unzipped. Only becomes OC if I'm at a restaurant or something for an extended time and remove my cover garment.

This might get more attention than just open carrying. No offense to anyone intended.

 

[actaeon277]

I read the customer who shoot the robber was not charged. Since it appears he shot him from the back, wonder how that would play out in Indiana?

It depends.

If someone has a gun to someones head, why would shooting them in the back make a difference?
Just an example, this guy wasn't holding a gun to someone's head.
But he was waving it around, and threatening. He wasn't wanting them to graciously donate money to him while he was showing off his new gun.
But, to a jury, I'm sure it will be considered. And I'd hope a defense lawyer/expert testimony could demonstrate the principle.

 

[nonobaddog]

Open carry can still be concealed carry if your apparel is planned in advance.

This depends on your definition of 'open carry'.
To many people if it is concealed by clothing it is no longer open carry.

 

[COOPADUP]

This depends on your definition of 'open carry'.
To many people if it is concealed by clothing it is no longer open carry.

Yes you are correct. I suppose I was defining "open carry" as outside the waist band carry.

 

[cedartop]

Can't say I disagree with much there. I will admit to failing on #3 often. It's not that I don't know it is a good thing to do, I just don't do it. I have started carrying pepper spray at church as it falls in line with what my responsibilities might be.

 

[Mij]

I made it to, you tube videos and closed the link.