Bayer to Pull Glyphosate Products, Including Roundup, From U.S. Home and Garden Market

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Glyphosate | US EPA

Glyphosate is a widely used herbicide that controls broadleaf weeds and grasses and has been in use since the 1970s.

www.epa.gov

...In January 2020, after receiving and considering public comments on the glyphosate proposed interim decision, EPA released the interim decision for registration review. As part of this action, EPA continues to find that there are no risks of concern to human health when glyphosate is used in accordance with its current label. EPA also found that glyphosate is unlikely to be a human carcinogen. EPA is requiring management measures to help farmers target pesticide sprays to intended pests, protect pollinators, and reduce the problem of weeds becoming resistant to glyphosate...

 

[foszoe]

Glyphosate | US EPA

Glyphosate is a widely used herbicide that controls broadleaf weeds and grasses and has been in use since the 1970s.

www.epa.gov

...In January 2020, after receiving and considering public comments on the glyphosate proposed interim decision, EPA released the interim decision for registration review. As part of this action, EPA continues to find that there are no risks of concern to human health when glyphosate is used in accordance with its current label. EPA also found that glyphosate is unlikely to be a human carcinogen. EPA is requiring management measures to help farmers target pesticide sprays to intended pests, protect pollinators, and reduce the problem of weeds becoming resistant to glyphosate...

Been reading this thread with some interest.


Not gonna trust a gov't study stand alone though. Especially in matters of health. Especially in the age of Covid.

 

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Roundup is changing its ingredients, here are some other weed-killer options | George Weigel

Now that Bayer AG is removing the controversial main ingredient from its popular Roundup herbicide, gardeners will have to rethink their weed-control strategy.

www.pennlive.com

 

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Bayer Roundup trial goes virtual, and it does not go well

In fits and starts, and with a good dose of frustration over technical difficulties, a California trial pitting an elderly cancer victim against Monsanto owner Bayer AG resumed on Monday in a virtual format after in-person proceedings were suspended last […]

usrtk.org

 

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Infographic: Does glyphosate (aka RoundUp) cause cancer? 18 of 19 global regulatory and chemical oversight agencies say 'no' while one presents equivocal data

Bayer, the company that now owns the herbicide glyphosate, has pulled the product for private residential use in an attempt to reduce further litigation

geneticliteracyproject.org

 

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Bayer wins Roundup trial; plaintiff fails to prove exposure caused child's disease

The former Monsanto Co., now owned by Bayer AG, notched its first win in the mass tort U.S. Roundup litigation on Tuesday, defeating at trial a mother who alleged her use of Roundup exposed her child to the pesticide and […]

usrtk.org

 

[KLB]

Bayer wins Roundup trial; plaintiff fails to prove exposure caused child's disease

The former Monsanto Co., now owned by Bayer AG, notched its first win in the mass tort U.S. Roundup litigation on Tuesday, defeating at trial a mother who alleged her use of Roundup exposed her child to the pesticide and […]

usrtk.org

If the glyphosate caused that child's problems, she is to blame not Bayer. Who the hell lets their small child play in something like that?

 

[ditcherman]

Very interesting conversation that Joe has with Bartoe Elmore, a guy that has dug deep into Monsanto's history, and big business in general. They go into a farming conversation, which I agree with for the most part, until Joe talks about why he won't buy meat. I think he's mislead, but whatever. Overall a very good conversation the whole way through.

 

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Court rejects Trump-era EPA finding that weed killer safe

A federal appeals court has rejected a Trump administration finding that the active ingredient in the weed killer Roundup does not pose a serious health risk and is “not likely” to cause cancer in humans.

apnews.com

 

[NyleRN]

I bought some Roundup weed and grass killer yesterday at Walmart

 

[cosermann]

Court rejects Trump-era EPA finding that weed killer safe

A federal appeals court has rejected a Trump administration finding that the active ingredient in the weed killer Roundup does not pose a serious health risk and is “not likely” to cause cancer in humans.

apnews.com

Ah, the interesting mix of activism, politics, courts, and science.

 

[manifest destiny]

There is no doubt that chemical pesticides are potentially dangerous. They're designed and marketed to kill living tissue. But! there is PPE's, aseptic techniques, following the label (label is law). More people are around chems, interact with chems and eat food products treated with chems than not. More people than not aren't harmed by chems. The sun can cause cancer if protective sensibilities aren't used. Vinegar, the vaunted 'all natural' cleanser, disinfectant, pesticide, herbicide can cause various injuries to those that mishandle it. You don't want chemicals used in your space? Don't use them. You want to use chemicals in your space? Use them responsibly.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

There is no doubt that chemical pesticides are potentially dangerous. They're designed and marketed to kill living tissue. But! there is PPE's, aseptic techniques, following the label (label is law). More people are around chems, interact with chems and eat food products treated with chems than not. More people than not aren't harmed by chems. The sun can cause cancer if protective sensibilities aren't used. Vinegar, the vaunted 'all natural' cleanser, disinfectant, pesticide, herbicide can cause various injuries to those that mishandle it. You don't want chemicals used in your space? Don't use them. You want to use chemicals in your space? Use them responsibly.

Dad used to work for both the Indiana Health Department and later the Marion County Health Department as director of Environmental Sanitation. We used to store Dioxin (Agent Orange) in our shed, along with DDT, Malathion, Carbon Tetrachloride, etc.. When the EPA wanted to ban DDT, Dad said that DDT had probably saved more lives (through eradication of mosquito born malaria) than penicillin.

 

[KLB]

Dad used to work for both the Indiana Health Department and later the Marion County Health Department as director of Environmental Sanitation. We used to store Dioxin (Agent Orange) in our shed, along with DDT, Malathion, Carbon Tetrachloride, etc.. When the EPA wanted to ban DDT, Dad said that DDT had probably saved more lives (through eradication of mosquito born malaria) than penicillin.

My step-grandfather died from skin cancer due to Agent Orange Exposure.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

My step-grandfather died from skin cancer due to Agent Orange Exposure.

Dad had a contact in the highway department and was able to get the dioxin from them. They used to use it to control clover along the interstates.

 

[KLB]

Dad had a contact in the highway department and was able to get the dioxin from them. They used to use it to control clover along the interstates.

Things are always safe, until they aren't. There is a long list of things that were supposed to be safe that ended up not being so in the end.

 

[ghuns]

Dad used to work for both the Indiana Health Department and later the Marion County Health Department as director of Environmental Sanitation. We used to store Dioxin (Agent Orange) in our shed, along with DDT, Malathion, Carbon Tetrachloride, etc.. When the EPA wanted to ban DDT, Dad said that DDT had probably saved more lives (through eradication of mosquito born malaria) than penicillin.

My dad drove a semi for a local chemical supplier for years. He used to get scratch-n-dent containers of various herbicides and pesticides. Every summer he'd mix up a batch of his signature bug killer. It contained stuff like Malathion, Dursban, Isotox, Seven, etc. I remember watching him mix it up and reading the labels that clearly said, DO NOT MIX THIS WITH ANY OTHER PRODUCT. I pointed this out one time, he was unconcerned.

People who visited our house in the summer were always impressed at the complete lack of bugs in our yard. Hell, as little kids we had to venture way out into the surrounding fields to just catch lightning bugs.

These days we just use Tempo SC Ultra. Supposedly pretty safe for 2 and 4 legged critters and kills about every bug out there. I used to keep a sprayer in the barn when the kids had 4h pigs. I'd spray the pig pens every other day to control flies. I mixed it pretty strong for that and it would knock flies right outta the air.

I found this out in the barn years ago...

It's 3/4 full, but I just keep it on a shelf with various other antiques.

 

[manifest destiny]

These days we just use Tempo SC Ultra

This is a residual chem. Great for buggies. Hard/lethal for amphibians and fish. It is labeled for commercial kitchens though. Extremely effective, long lasting, non-leaching, albeit not selective. Knockdown chems are usually used for bees, wasp, etc. The point being the bug chokes-out immediately. Bifenthrin isn't a very good knockdown chem when used according to label. Flying insects are one of the trickier critters to control, specifically at commercial or industrial sites used for food production. Accidents and misuse are exactly that. Sad when they happen but not exactly indicative of a chems safety or lethality. Without pesticides, farm production would struggle for yields. I know I'd prefer to never be exposed to pesticide chems, but the alternative (non-use) isn't appealing either. The LD50 standard can often be used to get a better feel for potential lethality in relative terms, sans accidents and misuse.

 

[manifest destiny]

My dad drove a semi for a local chemical supplier for years. He used to get scratch-n-dent containers of various herbicides and pesticides. Every summer he'd mix up a batch of his signature bug killer. It contained stuff like Malathion, Dursban, Isotox, Seven, etc. I remember watching him mix it up and reading the labels that clearly said, DO NOT MIX THIS WITH ANY OTHER PRODUCT. I pointed this out one time, he was unconcerned.

People who visited our house in the summer were always impressed at the complete lack of bugs in our yard. Hell, as little kids we had to venture way out into the surrounding fields to just catch lightning bugs.

These days we just use Tempo SC Ultra. Supposedly pretty safe for 2 and 4 legged critters and kills about every bug out there. I used to keep a sprayer in the barn when the kids had 4h pigs. I'd spray the pig pens every other day to control flies. I mixed it pretty strong for that and it would knock flies right outta the air.

I found this out in the barn years ago...

It's 3/4 full, but I just keep it on a shelf with various other antiques.

It would be neat send a sample for testing. I'd be curious if the molecular was as it was originally.