ATF changing the rules again...

[daddyusmaximus]

Seems the ATF (or AFT depending on what president you ask) is out to redefine just what a firearm is...
Looks as if they're trying to call an "upper receiver" a firearm itself unless I read it wrong...

If it has these parts...

"including, but not limited to, any of the following: hammer, bolt, bolt carrier,"

it's a firearm...

Summary of Final Rule 2021R-05F | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms On April 11, 2022, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, amending ATF’s regulations by removing and replacing the regulatory definitions of “firearm frame or...

www.atf.gov

 

[jbombelli]

Endorsed by Biden voters everywhere.

 

[flatlander]

Endorsed by Biden voters everywhere.

Even here ?

 

[daddyusmaximus]

Even here ?

They're everywhere...

 

[DadSmith]

They're everywhere...

Just like foolish people they are everywhere.

 

[Robert Richardson]

Just another form of stupid. You can't fix stupid.

 

[KG1]

Seems the ATF (or AFT depending on what president you ask) is out to redefine just what a firearm is...
Looks as if they're trying to call an "upper receiver" a firearm itself unless I read it wrong...

If it has these parts...

"including, but not limited to, any of the following: hammer, bolt, bolt carrier,"

it's a firearm...

Summary of Final Rule 2021R-05F | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms On April 11, 2022, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, amending ATF’s regulations by removing and replacing the regulatory definitions of “firearm frame or...

www.atf.gov

If this is true and they classify upper receivers as a 'firearm" then wouldn't they need to be serialized? There are literally millions of upper receivers out there without serial numbers. Are they all of a sudden gonna be illegal?

This would be some seriously stupid ****ed up **** if it were to be the case.

 

[KG1]

It also mentions "firing pin, striker, or slide rails" in that case it would mean every single upper whether it's a rifle or a handgun under this reclassification would require a serial number if it appears to be what they're proposing. Does this only pertain to newly manufactured and or imported? Who the hell knows?

Again. What about the millions of uppers, both rifle and handgun already out there without serial numbers?

Once again it appears that the ATF is purposely creating confusion as to just WTF they are actually proposing.

They need to be disbanded post haste.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It also mentions "firing pin, striker, or slide rails" in that case it would mean every single upper whether it's a rifle or a handgun under this reclassification would require a serial number if it appears to be what they're proposing. Does this only pertain to newly manufactured and or imported? Who the hell knows?

Again. What about the millions of uppers, both rifle and handgun already out there without serial numbers?

Once again it appears that the ATF is purposely creating confusion as to just WTF they are actually proposing.

They need to be disbanded post haste.

Disbanded? How about prison until the Second Coming of Christ?

 

[CitizenX]

I can't help but wonder how many FFL's see this as a potential uptick in their business activity.

 

[mike8170]

I can't help but wonder how many FFL's see this as a potential uptick in their business activity.

My FFL doesn't see it that way. He and I both see this as nothing but an infringement of our Right. Just like the last time I bought some Stag lowers and the NICS arbitrarily decided it would be 10 days without a proceed instead of the 3 days the law states. Because of the ATF and the current Puppet in Chief. I believe Unintended Consequences is more of a cookbook than fiction.

 

[Hawkeye]

Even here ?

Especially here. They walk amongst us. And proudly post how they would vote for biden again.

 

[phylodog]

**** em

What I owned a year ago today was legal and I no longer give two shits what the ****ing lunatics in DC say, do, want, hope for or "accomplish".



Don't start nuttin, won't be nuttin. Leave me the **** alone.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

The rule says they won't be changing any existing classifications, so since the upper isn't a firearm now it won't be in the future. Nothing is changing on this front, they are just clarifying that they have the power to determine which part is the "firearm" for split receivers, due to court rulings saying the lower isn't a firearm because it doesn't contain all of the fire control components

 

[AtTheMurph]

I really don't care what they call a firearm or not. The Federal government is not allowed to infringe upon my rights to protect myself.

 

[BigRed]

**** em

What I owned a year ago today was legal and I no longer give two shits what the ****ing lunatics in DC say, do, want, hope for or "accomplish".



Don't start nuttin, won't be nuttin. Leave me the **** alone.

AMEN

 

[foszoe]

AMEN

Second The motion.

 

[flatlander]

**** em

What I owned a year ago today was legal and I no longer give two shits what the ****ing lunatics in DC say, do, want, hope for or "accomplish".



Don't start nuttin, won't be nuttin. Leave me the **** alone.

**** these rotten bastids. My give a **** with this crap is gone.

 

[schmart]

Disbanded? How about prison until the Second Coming of Christ?

Why let them out then? Depending if you are pre or post rapture, the people left behind are going to need firearms more than ever!

 

[Colt556]

The BATFE changes its mind as much as the CDC!