Are healthy people really getting hit hard by Covid?

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Like your sources don't have an agenda. What a joke...
That is the point everyone has an agenda. Look at all of it and decide for yourself. I want everyone to make the best decision for you and your family. I definitely do not know the right answer at all. What I do know is that I don’t know. Stay healthy everyone!
 

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I know there are some other threads going around but I just can't find a good answer to this question. I hear anecdotal stories about somebody's niece's friend's boyfriend that died from covid and was a health nut but no real data to back it up. I also keep seeing articles about "healthy young people" getting intubated or dying but then when you drill into the story, you see that the person was grossly overweight. Are healthy people (people under 70 with no comorbidities and actually in good health), really being hit hard? I'm sure there are cases but can't find any actual data.

Tough to say....survival rate is only around 99% or so.
 

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Like your sources don't have an agenda. What a joke...
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I wouldn't take mass media scare stories seriously. Most of the "perfectly healthy" people they showcase are as big as houses in their pictures.

Healthy people are statistically at very little risk of actual death, but within those stats is the noise of individual variation, and the actual course and severity of the illness for people who recover is even noisier still. There is also the matter of Americans having a general culture of avoiding the doctor and not managing chronic issues. CM is absolutely right that someone can have an undiagnosed illness that has a bad interplay with the virus.

Also, the issues with the data collection are well documented. "Perfectly healthy" gunshot and car accident victims are in the covid stats because they got tested a week before they were shot.

But yeah I would ignore the media stories about hyper-healthy 18-year-old high school linebackers dying on vents, gasping out last desperate pleas for other people to get the vax. It's nonsense.
I get that it can be a serious disease for some, but I think I read the average age for hospitalization cases is in the 70s, and it annoys me the way the media will climb past vast bell-curve piles of old people hospitalized or killed by the virus, to report on the one 30-year-old who was killed, or a teen-ager, because it "drives the narrative."

When they tell about the 17 year old girl dying from Covid, they won't tell you she had Down Syndrome and wasn't expected to live to full life expectancy anyway. The 20 year old who died, but who had been Type 1 diabetic their whole life, etc., etc. The details get stripped out of all those stories.

Of course, I'm the person screaming at the TV when a mass-shooter story comes on, "What Antidepressant were they taking!!!" :soapbox:
 

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They also don't share the stories of the people who have had it, recovered and moved on with their lives just as they would with the flu or any other virus. I hear it every day from people in our office who tell us they had it, their whole family had it, etc. I hear VERY few talking about lingering effects. Most who we have heard about dying, died due to comorbidities that impacted their ability to fight off the virus.

I have also heard from many who have had issues due to the vaccine. I have heard many say they wish they had never gotten the vaccine because they were fine before, and now they are not. We had one the other day who was talking about what a horrible time they had with the booster shot. The vaccine was bad as far as how they felt after getting it, but they felt much worse after getting the booster.

People die every day from all sorts of illness, accidents, old age, etc. If it is COVID that takes me out, then so be it. I'll take my chances. I know I have been exposed several times over the past couple of years. So far, I haven't had it unless it was before we knew what it was. I do recall November 2019 having a viral illness that lasted several weeks. Hubby and I both had it. Patients in our office were canceling appointments in huge numbers. The reason we heard over and over was "My doctor says it is a virus. It is like nothing they have seen before and they don't know what it is, but it isn't the flu and is definitely a virus of some sort that doesn't respond to antibiotics."
 

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I get that it can be a serious disease for some, but I think I read the average age for hospitalization cases is in the 70s, and it annoys me the way the media will climb past vast bell-curve piles of old people hospitalized or killed by the virus, to report on the one 30-year-old who was killed, or a teen-ager, because it "drives the narrative."

When they tell about the 17 year old girl dying from Covid, they won't tell you she had Down Syndrome and wasn't expected to live to full life expectancy anyway. The 20 year old who died, but who had been Type 1 diabetic their whole life, etc., etc. The details get stripped out of all those stories.

Of course, I'm the person screaming at the TV when a mass-shooter story comes on, "What Antidepressant were they taking!!!" :soapbox:
Exactly. Assuming the stories aren't fabricated outright (not a safe assumption IMO), the media hops right over the bell curve to focus on the extreme outlier cases. In a country of 330 million people there will always be enough outliers to string together a series of stories to make people afraid of something they shouldn't be afraid of.
 

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The only healthy person I know that has died was around 45. He had covid and got over it. His wife made him get the shot 2 weeks after he recovered from Covid. He ended up having a massive stroke and died a few days later. He was ruled as a covid death, but it seems to me like it may have been the shot.
 

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The only healthy person I know that has died was around 45. He had covid and got over it. His wife made him get the shot 2 weeks after he recovered from Covid. He ended up having a massive stroke and died a few days later. He was ruled as a covid death, but it seems to me like it may have been the shot.

A guy I work with that is around 50 just recently had a stroke. Maybe 3 to 4 months after getting his vaccine. I have been wondering if that caused it although from what I have read, both the vaccine and covid can cause clotting.
 

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Exactly. Assuming the stories aren't fabricated outright (not a safe assumption IMO), the media hops right over the bell curve to focus on the extreme outlier cases. In a country of 330 million people there will always be enough outliers to string together a series of stories to make people afraid of something they shouldn't be afraid of.

And then the smartest in the room think they won a gotcha by applying the bell curve to the vaccine. Yep, allow the cheats, scoundrels and corrupt to suspend logic and then apply logic to convince others to do their bidding.

Just another way to say; heads I win, tails you lose...
 

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My healthy friend was in the hospital dying from COVID, thankfully after weeks of around the clock work by the hospital staff, he lived. No underlying conditions. It's happening.

It is sad they usually don't do treatment for these folks until they get too bad to treat.

I saw yesterday that over 200 in congress were treated with ivermectin. Hmmm

Someone once said it was for horses, but I've not seen any thoroughbreds in congress. LOL
 

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It is sad they usually don't do treatment for these folks until they get too bad to treat.

I saw yesterday that over 200 in congress were treated with ivermectin. Hmmm

Someone once said it was for horses, but I've not seen any thoroughbreds in congress. LOL
There are a bunch of asses in congress, so close enough?

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My healthy friend was in the hospital dying from COVID, thankfully after weeks of around the clock work by the hospital staff, he lived. No underlying conditions. It's happening.
I had a similar experience with a friend. Healthy army vet, but for double pneumonia and was touch and go.
 

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I'm in my early 50's. They tell me I'm in good shape for my age, and all the basics (blood pressure, weight, blood oxygen, etc.) are excellent. Certainly not in the shape I used to be, but reasonably good.

I got the Pfizer shots because my wife really wanted us too. I was against it, but it was important to her, and that's good enough for me. After the second shot, it kicked my ass. Out of business for a couple days, dragging butt for a week more, not quite right for ??? longer. That was last spring.

In August I'm 99.8% I got the Delta variant.

TO BE FAIR: I did not get tested. I can't say scientifically (if that means anything these days) that it was the Delta variant, or even COVID-19. I'm sure it was, and everything was a match. I've had omnipotent liberal relatives berate me for not going to the ER and not getting tested. I just told them "It's my body, and I can do what I want with it" and "How dare you tell me how to feel" and even a "I Self-Identified as Delta-varient positive, and you just need to respect that." Then I had to drop it before their heads exploded. Family first, despite how ------ they can be.

Crept up for a few days, then WHAM! it hit me harder than anything I can remember. Wife was scared and kept trying to get me to go to the hospital, but I said it was cheaper to die in place. I just didn't want to move, period. Actually, it was horrible but I didn't think I was dying yet. Then again, I was also hallucinating a lot! Asking if I needed the ER was like asking a drunk if he was okay to drive. For my own reasons, I didn't want go to the ER, get tested, get branded and given my scarlet letter, get everyone around me branded, get sent home to rest and drink lots of fluids, then get a fat invoice for the trouble. I quarantined myself (luckily my job made this easier than most), made sure those close to me knew, and suffered for about two weeks. Compared to the worst of it, I thought I was fine, but all in it was 6-7 weeks to get mostly "normal" and productive again. This just isn't like me.

Did the shot make it worse? That is my sense, but it's not based on anything but my experience.

Did the shot protect me? No

Did the shot hurt me? Definitely right after I got it, maybe in August.

Will I get any more "booster shots"? Hell NO!

If I could go back, would I get the first two shots? Probably not. I would have spent more time convincing my wife that it was going to be okay without them. If I couldn't convince her, and she really really wanted it... I'd willingly do it all again and more just for her.
 

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The only healthy person I know that has died was around 45. He had covid and got over it. His wife made him get the shot 2 weeks after he recovered from Covid. He ended up having a massive stroke and died a few days later. He was ruled as a covid death, but it seems to me like it may have been the shot.
We recommend full dose 325mg aspirin for a month after COVID diagnosis. Large amount of strokes and heart attacks in post COVID time
 

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