AR Pistol Build - 9mm

[Amishman44]

Okay...probably a 'beat-to-death' topic, but here goes...
Considering or wanting to do an AR Pistol 9mm build...a PCC 9mm...and want a longer, 10.5" barrel for improved bullet performance.
I've been looking at a few in stores and watching Youtube videos on everyone's opinion regarding which is the 'best' AR-PCC-9mm!
I'm kinda leaning toward the Aero Precision EPC...but would have to build it and have been told I would be better off buying an off-the-shelf model.
I like the CMMG Banshee...but, dang...those are really gone up in price!
Several people have recommended the Sig Sauer or the CZ PCC's...and the Ruger PC-9 has come up in more than a few conversations...as has the Diamondback.
Any other suggestions...recommendations...based one's actual experience...and why???
Thanks in advance...

 

[gregkl]

Tagging for interest. I'm wondering why someone said you would be better off buying off the shelf instead of building the Aero Precision EPC.

I don't know anything about the Aero Precision EPC, but I thought that Aero stuff was considered pretty good quality manufacturing.

But, like I said, I'm tagging to see what the general consensus is. The last time I posted about building a PCC, I bought a M&P 15-22. Which is a lot of fun! I ended up putting a lot of money into it getting it the way I wanted.

 

[DadSmith]

Tagging for interest. I'm wondering why someone said you would be better off buying off the shelf instead of building the Aero Precision EPC.

I don't know anything about the Aero Precision EPC, but I thought that Aero stuff was considered pretty good quality manufacturing.

But, like I said, I'm tagging to see what the general consensus is. The last time I posted about building a PCC, I bought a M&P 15-22. Which is a lot of fun! I ended up putting a lot of money into it getting it the way I wanted.

Same.
I found out that Aero has a 10mm EPC coming out as soon as they can iron out a few problems they are having with it.
I'm glad Aero Precision isn't beta testing it on us like many companies seem to be doing now days.

 

[marvin02]

What will you be using the gun for?

Budget?

Here's some from our classifieds:

WTS: - Freedom Ordinance FX-9

Selling a new / never fired Freedom Ordinance FX-9 SBA3 with the 4” barrel. Comes in original box from the factory plus a detachable sling. Location: Danville Price: $700

www.indianagunowners.com

You can change the barrel if you really want something longer.

WTS: - Cz scorpion

I have a cz scorpion evo 1 pistol. Comes with four 30rd mags and one 10rd mag. Also had the folding brace on it as well. And had a tactical back pack it fits perfect in. Price $850 can send more pics on request. And ammo does not come with it.

www.indianagunowners.com

I've read a lot of good things about this CZ model.

WTS: - Ruger PC Charger loaded out - As New

As-new condition Pistol has Glock magazine well insert installed. I built this and ended up not shooting as much as I thought. Also includes original box for pistol. Test fired only [less than 50 rounds down the pipe] Everything is brand new: TK Titan Extended Magazine Release TK Charging...

www.indianagunowners.com

Gussied up Ruger PC Charger.

I like the Ruger PC Carbine and just got a second one. For me it's been a dependable gun. I shoot both iron sights and optics division of steel challenge.

I've been looking at other pc carbines and the FX-9 and just right carbines have caught my eye. I've also thought about doing an AR-9 build.

If you want to shoot my PC Carbines we could meet at Michigan City Rifle Club.

 

[Amishman44]

Usage... mainly for around the house and for (some) CQB training...
Main reason I'm leaning towards the Aero is quality...to be able to pick parts and piece it together (10" handguard + 11" barrel) and do my own build...and, because they make it in a FDE color...
All for 1/2 - 2/3 the price of a Banshee...
Considering a Red Dot for it...any recommendations?

 

[mmpsteve]

snip ...
Considering a Red Dot for it...any recommendations?

I like the Leupold DPP, only because that's what I have. I'm sure some are better than others, but my 4 or 5 DPP's have served me well.

p.s.: this Banshee may look familiar to you . Of course, I removed the brace, so as to stay legal in this age of alphabet-agency activism.



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[marvin02]

I just mounted a Holosun 507c on one of my PCCs. I like the 32 moa circle dot reticle.



AA Optics, a site sponsor, has Vortex refurbs at good prices.

I also have a Swampfox Liberator I like, which is a tube red dot.

 

[jd4320t]

Aero EPC parts are good to go. They are having trouble with their barrels not feeding hollow point and flat nose bullets. They recently released a new and improved barre with a feed cone. I’ll be sending mine in for replacement.

My 5.5” pistol has ran great with everything except flat nose I tried to run through it.

I’d watch their site for blem products and save yourself some money. However, today they’re released their new Join, or Die snake lower and it’s pretty awesome. It comes in fde too.

 

[Amishman44]

Aero EPC parts are good to go. They are having trouble with their barrels not feeding hollow point and flat nose bullets. They recently released a new and improved barre with a feed cone. I’ll be sending mine in for replacement.

My 5.5” pistol has ran great with everything except flat nose I tried to run through it.

I’d watch their site for blem products and save yourself some money. However, today they’re released their new Join, or Die snake lower and it’s pretty awesome. It comes in fde too.

I heard about the barrel feed issue...and it was recommended that I get something new from Ballistics Advantage (Aero's barrel manufacturer) with the new style throat chambering...

Quick question...which is better overall...with considerations for things such as bullet performance, maneuverability, accuracy, etc...an 8" barrel or an 11" barrel???

 

[marvin02]

Quick question...which is better overall...with considerations for things such as bullet performance, maneuverability, accuracy, etc...an 8" barrel or an 11" barrel???

Velocity info:

BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: 9mm Luger Results

(statement of intent)

www.ballisticsbytheinch.com

There is a quick take on 9mm barrel length at this link:

Best Barrel Lengths: Complete Guide

Before buying a new firearm, many gun owners want to know what the best barrel length is for a certain application. Different calibers will have different optimal barrel lengths for …

neckbonearmory.com

If you reload you can Taylor your ammo to your build.

 

[Amishman44]

I like the Leupold DPP, only because that's what I have. I'm sure some are better than others, but my 4 or 5 DPP's have served me well.

p.s.: this Banshee may look familiar to you . Of course, I removed the brace, so as to stay legal in this age of alphabet-agency activism.

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That does look a tad familiar...

 

[daddyusmaximus]

I'm call mine the "Plague Pistol" because I built it with my plague money during the lockdown.

I started off with everyone's favorite... the PSA pistol lower, because it was cheap, complete, and easy to find. The upper is a Spartan. I got it private sale. It has the LRBHO and a kinda cool "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ" engraved on the right side. It's new, as was the barrel I found from another private sale, an 8" PSA.

Brownells charging handle, and BCG, 7" Midwest Industries M-Lok rail, Holosun red dot, ProTac light, Magpul sights, and hand stop, Blue Force sling... and done.

Everything works as it should.

 

[tcecil88]

I went with an 8" barrel keeping in mind most pistol bullets are designed for a specific velocity to work as advertised. Keep in mind the faster the HP is going when it hits, the larger the expansion, and the resulting less penetration. a 10.5" will probably not see a huge amount of penetration loss, but it is something to keep in mind.


Good video from ARF.com on a 124gr. +p HST out of a 16" barrel.

 

[BoilerWes]

JP-5.

JP - JP-5™ Rifle

Your welcome

 

[BoilerWes]

I also like the Leupold DPP. That said, they discontinued their riser mount that can be combined with their elevated cross lock mount. For my taste, I prefer a more heads up style/set-up….and the cross mount set up doesn’t quite get me there. Does not seem to be any aftermarket options from a mounting perspective.

 

[Grogmister]

I built an Aero EPC but used a Faxon 8.3” barrel and BCG simply because I could not find an Aero one at the time. Im am 100% happy with my build. Aero stuff IMO is really nice with great fit and finish.

 

[Amishman44]

Velocity info:

BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: 9mm Luger Results

(statement of intent)

www.ballisticsbytheinch.com

There is a quick take on 9mm barrel length at this link:

Best Barrel Lengths: Complete Guide

Before buying a new firearm, many gun owners want to know what the best barrel length is for a certain application. Different calibers will have different optimal barrel lengths for …

neckbonearmory.com

If you reload you can Taylor your ammo to your build.

Took me a bit to get to those sites and review them...but very helpful, thank you!

 

[Amishman44]

Went by 3 different LGS and looked at MANY different Red Dot Sights yesterday...
Really liking the Holson HE510-GR sight...any users / thoughts?

HE510C-GR-Holosun

The HE510C-GR is an open reflex optical sight designed for rifle and carbine applications. Features include Holosun’s Green Super LED with up to 50k hours battery life, Multi-Reticle System, Solar Failsafe, and Shake Awake.

holosun.com

 

[marvin02]

Really liking the Holson HE510-GR sight...any users / thoughts?

I have the 510-gr, a 507c and a 407k-gr. I like them all. I prefer green over red, but that's is a personal preference. The 510 has been through about 2,000 rounds on my Ruger PC Carbine with no issues.

The circle reticle on the 510 is very easy to pick up quickly. The glass on mine is very clear.

If you prefer an open reflex to a tube sight the Holosun red dots are a good option based on value/price. Made in China is a deal breaker for many.

Here's a channel for red dot testing that I like:

https://m.youtube.com/user/SageDynamics

Edit: Until I got a second PC Carbine I used the 510's quick disconnect and used the same rifle for optics and iron sights. It would be zeroed after taking it off and putting it back on.

 

[tcecil88]

I have a 510C-GR Elite on one of my .300 BLK builds and it is a solid sight. I highly recommend any of the Holosun offerings. Primary Arms does a good job with their red dots with the ACSS reticle. I have a Primary Arms MD25 SLX w/ ACSS reticle on my Freedom Ordnance FX-9 and it works well. They also have a standard red dot version of the same sight.