Afghanistan

[BugI02]

Success has many fathers, failure is always an orphan

 

[DragonGunner]

Can confirm; about 2/3 of Fort Campbell is in Tennessee. The post office is in Kentucky, hence the Kentucky address.

Source: Stationed at Fort Campbell for four years, proud member of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault).

Well thanks for the info...I guess both states can claim the 101st.

 

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[buckwacker]

Daaaaaaaamn!!!!

 

[jwamplerusa]

They cannot charge anyone with treason. Yeah, someone pointed it out, that statues got pulled down after the revolution.

Yeah, someone pointed it out, that statues got pulled down after the revolution.

I'm not suggesting the charge would stick, but I am sad no one has tried. I would point to the Constitution of the State of Indiana, Article 1, Sections 28 and 29.

I just want someone to make some attempt to hold the treasonous POS defiling the Whitehouse accountable for what he has done to this Nation. It shouldn't be hard to find two people to hold up pictures of the Taliban equipped with U.S. weapons. Especially after this week's testimony.

Yeah, I know I'm slightly delusional. I want the President of the United States of America to actually act in the best interest this Nation and protect this Nation from its enemies.

 

[NKBJ]

I'm not suggesting the charge would stick, but I am sad no one has tried. I would point to the Constitution of the State of Indiana, Article 1, Sections 28 and 29.

I just want someone to make some attempt to hold the treasonous POS defiling the Whitehouse accountable for what he has done to this Nation. It shouldn't be hard to find two people to hold up pictures of the Taliban equipped with U.S. weapons. Especially after this week's testimony.

Yeah, I know I'm slightly delusional. I want the President of the United States of America to actually act in the best interest this Nation and protect this Nation from its enemies.

Seeing as my post was quoted...
What I was pointing out is that when they started pulling down statues (that's been years ago now) that was after the revolution. Most people just couldn't see what they was looking at.

 

[printcraft]

 

[ditcherman]

Glad to hear that Stuart Sheller is on the congressman’s radar, he got a mention about 3:40 in.

 

[ditcherman]

Or….he’s not on their radar….

 

[Shadow01]

I'm not suggesting the charge would stick, but I am sad no one has tried. I would point to the Constitution of the State of Indiana, Article 1, Sections 28 and 29.

I just want someone to make some attempt to hold the treasonous POS defiling the Whitehouse accountable for what he has done to this Nation. It shouldn't be hard to find two people to hold up pictures of the Taliban equipped with U.S. weapons. Especially after this week's testimony.

Yeah, I know I'm slightly delusional. I want the President of the United States of America to actually act in the best interest this Nation and protect this Nation from its enemies.

there’s no will. The majority would rather slow walk the direction we are headed than risk taking a firm stand

 

[KellyinAvon]

Wow, didn't even show up with UCMJ Article 134 (Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline and of a nature to bring discredit to the service.) Even though the Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell pre-dated the UCMJ by 25 years, that's what his Court-martial charge was for doing basically the same thing. ​

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Marine who criticized military leaders on Afghanistan exit charged with six crimes​

Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, the outspoken Marine who went viral for criticizing military leadership during the U.S. exit from Afghanistan, is being charged with six crimes after his release from the brig.

Scheller will face a misdemeanor-level special court martial for his viral videos that blasted both civilian and military leadership.

Scheller is accused of displaying contempt toward officials, disrespecting superior commissioned officers, willfully disobeying a superior commissioned officer, dereliction in the performance of his duties and failure to obey an order or regulation, and displaying conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.

Marine who criticized military leaders on Afghanistan exit charged with six crimes

Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, the outspoken Marine officer who went viral for criticizing military leadership during the U.S. exit from Afghanistan, is being charged with six crimes after his release from the brig

www.foxnews.com

 

[ditcherman]

Wow, didn't even show up with UCMJ Article 134 (Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline and of a nature to bring discredit to the service.) Even though the Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell pre-dated the UCMJ by 25 years, that's what his Court-martial charge was for doing basically the same thing. ​

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Marine who criticized military leaders on Afghanistan exit charged with six crimes​

Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, the outspoken Marine who went viral for criticizing military leadership during the U.S. exit from Afghanistan, is being charged with six crimes after his release from the brig.

Scheller will face a misdemeanor-level special court martial for his viral videos that blasted both civilian and military leadership.

Scheller is accused of displaying contempt toward officials, disrespecting superior commissioned officers, willfully disobeying a superior commissioned officer, dereliction in the performance of his duties and failure to obey an order or regulation, and displaying conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.

Marine who criticized military leaders on Afghanistan exit charged with six crimes

Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, the outspoken Marine officer who went viral for criticizing military leadership during the U.S. exit from Afghanistan, is being charged with six crimes after his release from the brig

www.foxnews.com

Are these lesser charges than what was expected? Or worse?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Are these lesser charges than what was expected? Or worse?

Article 134 has long been a catch-all IMHO. Got an inappropriate tattoo? Dare point out the failings of a superior?

The UCMJ has two purposes: extended the US Constitution to foreign lands, provide a basis to prosecute uniquely-Military crimes. The latter gets pushed to things far beyond what the former allows, as we see in this case. AWOL/desertion is bad but not a crime in the civvie world, these are (and should be) crimes in the Military.

I've been retired (from the USAF, not retired-retired) over 14 years. My views on some things have changed needless to say.

 

[ditcherman]

Article 134 has long been a catch-all IMHO. Got an inappropriate tattoo? Dare point out the failings of a superior?

The UCMJ has two purposes: extended the US Constitution to foreign lands, provide a basis to prosecute uniquely-Military crimes. The latter gets pushed to things far beyond what the former allows, as we see in this case. AWOL/desertion is bad but not a crime in the civvie world, these are (and should be) crimes in the Military.

I've been retired (from the USAF, not retired-retired) over 14 years. My views on some things have changed needless to say.

So it sounds like more charges, not less.

If I’m reading it correctly it sounds like you think he committed crimes (probably hard to argue that, pretty black and white).
People “get away” with stuff all the time; do you think charges should be pursued?

I’m coming at the subject as a big fan of his from what I’ve seen from him. Maybe he broke the law, and maybe the law needed breaking (don’t @me with anarchist peoples). Similar to many in here will be “no thank you, I’ll keep my guns”.
I think he is part of the solution.

Anyway, just interested in a professional experienced opinion on him.

 

[Brad69]

Yeah
The charges look about right. You have to rember this dude has 17 years in and is a 0-5 LTC. Normally a Battalion Commander that has UCMJ authority over his people typically 500 plus.

He would have probably thrown the book at someone in his command if the roles were reversed.

It doesn’t matter to the UCMJ if it was pro American talk or pro taliban.

 

[buckwacker]

If Ioose my job over this jab mandate, maybe I should pick up and move to the Stan. Sounds like their guns laws aren't near as onerous as ours. And at this rate, we won't have much other freedom left soon anyway. I could use a cheap M4 and a Barrett 50 cal.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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[indyjs]

Another forum noted that along with the obvious military gear abandoned, we also left civilian documents, apartments, office buildings and apparently a server farm full of stuff. Since Russia is supposedly hacking our infrastructure, It must have been left for China. On accident, I am sure

 

[BigRed]

Afghanistan: Deadly attack hits Kunduz mosque during Friday prayers

Islamic State militants say they were behind the deadliest bombing since US forces left Afghanistan.

www.bbc.com

It was a **** hole.
It is a **** hole.
It will always be a **** hole.

 

[NKBJ]

With the ongoing process of becoming a pariah nation though I'd post this...

"I could see the United States one day being very very lonely."

 

[ditcherman]

With the ongoing process of becoming a pariah nation though I'd post this...

"I could see the United States one day being very very lonely."

Can you imagine that conversation on late night tv anytime in the last 20 years?