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[XMil]

Been living in a cave?

Possibly I'm just not a tin-foil hat nutter. All this conspiracy theory nonsense is ridiculous.

 

[XMil]

I see the apple hasn’t fallen far….

What do you mean?

 

[XMil]

There was 20 yrs of research into this vaccine. LIE.
The vaccine is safe and effective. LIE.
The vaccine will prevent contracting or spreading covid 19. LIE
The booster will do it for sure. LIE.
The 2nd booster will do it for sure. LIE.
The 3rd, 4th, or 5th blah blah..... LIE.
Masks are effective. LIE.
We must tank the economy by shutting down business, and quarantine people. LIE.
There is no other treatment than the vaccine. LIE.
Acquired immunity is worthless. LIE.
And on and on and on.

You only need to look to see the lies, and subsequent manipulation of society. Link their motives to their methods and results.
I don't think that you have gotten a "big argument", just logical, polite, well thought out responses. The .gov abused their authority and maligned a huge section of the population, all to achieve political goals.
They never let a crisis go to waste, and they are shameless in their transgressions against liberty and America.

They aren't lies.
#1 We have a long history with MRNA vaccinces
https://tinyurl.com/afw8n8ab

#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

#3 I don't know that you understand how vaccines work.

#4 Nobody said that

#5 Again, no.

#6 Really, no.

#7 Masks DO help.

#8 This is just crazy.

#9 Not sure what this even means.

#10 I'd like to see a reputable medical source that said that. I doubt there is one.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:

 

[Ingomike]

They aren't lies.
#1 We have a long history with MRNA vaccinces
https://tinyurl.com/afw8n8ab

#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

#3 I don't know that you understand how vaccines work.

#4 Nobody said that

#5 Again, no.

#6 Really, no.

#7 Masks DO help.

#8 This is just crazy.

#9 Not sure what this even means.

#10 I'd like to see a reputable medical source that said that. I doubt there is one.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:


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You are the conspiracy theorist. You are propagating proven lies.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

They aren't lies.
#1 We have a long history with MRNA vaccinces
https://tinyurl.com/afw8n8ab

#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

#3 I don't know that you understand how vaccines work.

#4 Nobody said that

#5 Again, no.

#6 Really, no.

#7 Masks DO help.

#8 This is just crazy.

#9 Not sure what this even means.

#10 I'd like to see a reputable medical source that said that. I doubt there is one.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:


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#2. Everyone that I know that has gotten the vax and is fully boosted have both gotten and spread it. One is still dealing with long term complications.

#3, #4, #5, #6. Our President, Fauci, and the CDC Director, as well as many on the news media said it's impossible for vaccinated people to contract and spread the virus on TV and Senate Committee hearings. (Remember 'Pandemic of the Unvaccinated')

#8. I and most of my friends were laid off and unemployed for nearly a year because of those stupid lockdowns and health advisories.

And in response to the meme, there are plenty of doctors in the field that disagree with the narrative. Doctors such as:
Dr. Judy Mikovits
Dr. Peter McCullough
Dr. Stella Immanuel
Dr. Robert Malone (One of the patent holders of MRNA technology)
The late Dr. Vladimir Zelenko
And thousands of others.
Several countries have even outright banned certain vaccines, like Japan.

Even though some conspiracy theories are absolutely crazy like the 'moon is made of cheese', or 'earth is flat', conspiracies do happen. Especially when there is a lot of money to be made. I often see people accuse others of being 'conspiracy theorists' in order to try and gridlock discussions, even though proposing theories about conspiracies is not something unusual, like detectives theorizing a motive for a conspiracy to commit murder charge. Even so, some of these 'theories' were not cooked up in someone's basement and actually have evidence and research in them.

 

[Ingomike]

The term “conspiracy theory“ came to prominence to hide the CIA involvement in the Kennedy assignation…

 

[JettaKnight]

Oh, hooray, another anti-vax thread.

Godspeed XMil, but you're vastly outnumbered by folks that seem to have nothing better to do than argue about this.

Mark Twain had some wisdom about these sorts of threads.

 

[ZurokSlayer7X9]

Oh, hooray, another anti-vax thread.

Godspeed XMil, but you're vastly outnumbered by folks that seem to have nothing better to do than argue about this.

Mark Twain had some wisdom about these sorts of threads.

It was never meant to be. I guess this is the 'devolving' @bobzilla mentioned earlier.

 

[2tonic]

They aren't lies.
#1 We have a long history with MRNA vaccinces
https://tinyurl.com/afw8n8ab

#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

#3 I don't know that you understand how vaccines work.

#4 Nobody said that

#5 Again, no.

#6 Really, no.

#7 Masks DO help.

#8 This is just crazy.

#9 Not sure what this even means.

#10 I'd like to see a reputable medical source that said that. I doubt there is one.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:


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If you look to the left you'll see trees.
On the right is the forest.
Your choice whether you remove your blinders.

 

[bobzilla]

You are the conspiracy theorist. You are propagating proven lies.

I see we have a faithful adherent of the Branch Covidians with us. I thought by now enough data would have been flung at them SOMETHING would have gotten through. Apparently I was wrong.

 

[maxipum]

They aren't lies.
#1 We have a long history with MRNA vaccinces
https://tinyurl.com/afw8n8ab

#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

#3 I don't know that you understand how vaccines work.

#4 Nobody said that

#5 Again, no.

#6 Really, no.

#7 Masks DO help.

#8 This is just crazy.

#9 Not sure what this even means.

#10 I'd like to see a reputable medical source that said that. I doubt there is one.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:


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Holy crap Batman we have a true believer here.

 

[bobzilla]

Holy crap Batman we have a true believer here.

Everyone has their religion, no matter how bat **** crazy it is.

I think what is truly sad is that there is overwhelming evidence on every single one of those points that he's refuting. But they still clutch their pearls and say 3 hail faucis every day.

 

[Shadow01]

Oh, hooray, another anti-vax thread.

Godspeed XMil, but you're vastly outnumbered by folks that seem to have nothing better to do than argue about this.

Mark Twain had some wisdom about these sorts of threads.

If the discussion doesn’t suit you, most browsers have the ability to allow the user to scroll past the subject at hand.

 

[2tonic]

Possibly I'm just not a tin-foil hat nutter. All this conspiracy theory nonsense is ridiculous.

Yep...went right to name calling. I expected better.

 

[bobzilla]

Yep...went right to name calling. I expected better.

I don’t. If they will completely ignore reality and cling to lies they will obviously not reply with sanity or reason

 

[2tonic]

They aren't lies.........
#2 https://doh.wa.gov/emergencies/covid-19/vaccine-information/safety-and-effectiveness

Wow...went straight to .gov sources. I see you like to drink your Koolaid right from the well.

This meme sums up my experience with conspiracy theorists:


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Maybe up until 1960, but let's update that to today's standards.

Endure indoctrination for 3 years for degree.
Endure further indoctrination for 3 years for PhD.
Get woke, claim victim status
(This will guarantee acceptance of your Doctoral Thesis).
Move back home to sponge off your parents, while you consider the value of work.
Decide that's obviously beneath you.
Continue to sponge and wait for .gov to pay your student loans.
Spend years studying problem.
Problem is obtaining grants to justify your existence.
Form conclusions. They must be stark and scary.
Gather only evidence that supports your conclusions.
Construct hypothesis to suit.
Lobby sympathetic politicians and academicians about your TEOTWAWKI findings.
This brings funding.
Report alarmist findings.
Clear peer review through fellow group of corrupted, indoctrinated peers.
Findings published by sycophantic press, with no questions or rebuttal in sight.
You lie and they'll swear to it.
Write viciously unreadable book.
Go on publicity tour hawking your new cash cow to skulls full of mush.
Become instant celebrity of the left.
Get your photo taken with Greta.
Continue to pump out unsubstantiated drivel for all the money it's worth.

Someone with common sense, real life experience, and a notion of mans purpose sees it on the internet and says "Bulls**t.



There......FIFY.

 

[JettaKnight]

It was never meant to be. I guess this is the 'devolving' @bobzilla mentioned earlier.

Welcome to INGO.

 

[JettaKnight]

Excuse me if I am misunderstanding you. Are you saying you saw no oppression, no ostracizing during the period of time from about June 2020 through a good part of 2022? If you are, we have very different experiences and news sources.

Well, TBF, who's getting ostracized now with all these, "there dumb for wearing they're masks" and "only sheeple get vaccinated" posts?

The door swings both ways.

 

[JettaKnight]

What makes you think I'm not? My grandfather was a very popular Pentecostal minister for the first 50 years of my life. To be honest, I'm ashamed of the way most of them act.

As an evangelical Christian, I too am ashamed about how some of us act.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I see we have a faithful adherent of the Branch Covidians with us. I thought by now enough data would have been flung at them SOMETHING would have gotten through. Apparently I was wrong.

Some people just cant accept they were wrong and move on. So they double, and triple down.

And what amazes me, are those like this guy that didnt actually MAKE the call.

I mean, I can see Fauci who actually (supposedly) looked at the data and got it wrong. That makes sense. But people like us have no actual skin in the game? No. "WE" didnt make the call, "we" just listened to the experts. And when you are lied to, and are not responsible for the original error, there is no reason to self-correct when the new data comes out.

And when you do that, you have the ability to say "Look, dont blame me. I was just following the experts. " Yet so many cant understand that they are not losing face by admitting they were lied to. They take it personally instead of saying "look, I was just listening to the experts. THEY are the ones to blame. I'm taking a new position now." (OH and by the way, screw them)