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8.6 Blackout
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I think it's just to get the cool kids to buy it so they are the first on the block with the latest and "greatest" new gadget.
What's the over/under?
I give it a year before it dies a painful death.
I give it a year before it dies a painful death.
.300 BLK, 8.6 Creedmoor, and Kevin Brittingham
The .300BLK started life as the proprietary “.300 Whisper” when Kevin was still in charge of AAC. He was primarily responsible for taking this wildcat cartridge and getting it SAA…
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This one isn't going to have a noticeable on other ammunition production.
Seems like it's really has only one purpose: Throw a heavy 338 bullet at subsonic speeds for suppressed use. The barrels are 1:3 twist which will over rotate supers fairly easily if you are not careful. I haven't done any calculations but when I ordered my 300 blackout barrel 1:5 twist like the Q honey badger will over rotate the lighter supersonic bullets causing problems.
They said the other use was using supers in a short barrel, so you could hunt with a smaller rifle.
Q's NEW 8.6 BLK
What the hell is 8.6 Creedmoor?It's the .338 Federal, right? No. Similar, but no.
Hawkeye7br
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Sorry, I can't get excited about a 6BR necked up to .338. You won't have to worry about me chasing components for this.
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Based on the responses I'm seeing clearly we have some concerns, and I too have to question the timing of releasing this to us.
Normally, I like to see new ventures and development, especially in areas that allow for cross compatibility between my firearms, and ammunition components. For me, I've been loving the 6.5 Creedmoor, and I'd rather sell/get out of the .308 and focus on 6.5 Creedmoor based on my preferences. But we all like those bigger bullets should the need arise, and having the ability to cut the 6.5 case down and load with the .338 bullets is something that I'd like to pursue. I get that it's not going to perform like many other .30 cal platforms, but it does hit hard and is compatible with many of the components that I currently use.
To each their own I suppose, and to join in on the hate side of the fence, I've been waiting for Faxon match barrels in both the .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor, so it's disappointing to say the least to know that they'd rather venture out into this new market than serve the one that is already established and that are patiently waiting to finish their builds... Not sure who's driving that ship, but I'm pretty sure they're about to loose a few sales from this guy.
I haven't met too many cartridges I hate. Some just don't do enough to justify the plunge with what I already load and shoot. I don't think I would rule it out just yet though. We will have to see how well it catches on.
Hawkeye7br
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.473" bolt face, same as 6br, so it isn't a Blackout.
30 degree shoulder, same as 6br.
.125" longer than a 6br, but with the huge bullet buried in the case to fit the required overall length, there is no real gain in case capacity.
Again, a 6br necked up to .338. No thanks.
30 degree shoulder, same as 6br.
.125" longer than a 6br, but with the huge bullet buried in the case to fit the required overall length, there is no real gain in case capacity.
Again, a 6br necked up to .338. No thanks.
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Plinker
@Hawkeye7br - Being able to take that the 6.5 Creedmoor case to the 8.6 is no different than taking a 6mm BR to the 30br which many have done. I understand there will be challenges, but I want what I want, and the 210 gr - 300 gr bullets running down a short barrel AR10 and 700 is exactly what I'm looking for. I get what you're saying, however I omitted my primary desire for use with my AR10 and Bolt action rifles that are currently setup for 6.5 Creedmoor & .308, but I'm happier with the 6.5 performance compared to the .308 and would rather eliminate the .308 in exchange for these much heavier bullets.
How dare the firearms industry provide us with more choices. Especially when they should be catering exclusively to those that didn't have the sense to stock up when they could.
While I'm sure some will be thrilled with this cartridge and have a use for it, I just don't see it. The .338 Fed was already lacking in performance (and in popularity), designing a cartridge for lower performance in the same footprint just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
While I'm sure some will be thrilled with this cartridge and have a use for it, I just don't see it. The .338 Fed was already lacking in performance (and in popularity), designing a cartridge for lower performance in the same footprint just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
