30,000 Domestic Drones by 2020?

[J_Wales]

The List OF 75 US Senators Who Voted To Let 30,000 Drones Shoot Americans In The Streets

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Mark Begich (D-AK)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Scott Brown (R-MA)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
John Hoeven (R-ND)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Dan Inouye (D-HI)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
John Kerry (D-MA)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Joe Lieberman (ID-CT)
Dick Lugar (R-IN)
Joe Manchin (D-WV)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
John Reed (D-RI)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
John Thune (R-SD)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Mark Udall (D-CO)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)

And it is worth noting that both Ds and Rs are represented in the list........ demonstrating yet again that while Ds are prolific with statist pigs, Ds are far from having a monopoly on the beast.

 

[Sarge470]

Drones themselves are not the problem, but the intent of the users is a definite concern to me. I could reasonably accept the limited use of a small portable airborne device to help locate a fleeing suspect who represents a risk to my officers and surrounding citizens, but don't care at all for the idea of continuous surveillance of citizens from above. It may also be the case that the new emphasis on drones is a cost-cutting measure; lower fuel, maintenance and overall operating costs, since a licensed pilot may not be required for operation. We have some personnel who are all fired up about the idea of getting a helicopter...to what end? They're expensive as hell to operate, require extensive training to fly, and would be flying around most of the time just wasting scarce taxpayer dollars. I'd much rather devote those resources to ground operations, where they'll go a lot farther and result in better service to the people who are paying the bills...YOU! The air unit will never be able to take a report, investigate an accident, or snap cuffs on a burglar. On the other hand, just a single remote-control drone can be deployed in minutes over a specific location to locate an armed criminal or a lost child. Sure, there would have to be a lot of public oversight to guard against intrusions on privacy, and I'm perfectly happy with that. A drone, just like my weapon, should only be used when absolutely necessary, and subject to scrutiny from the public, courts and administration. For about three hundred bucks, anyone on this board can buy a small UAV complete with two cameras and fly it right out of the box using an iPhone. The government isn't the only entity out there capable on spying on you...

 

[Sarge470]

Here's a link to the UAV I mentioned...now your neighbors can see over your privacy fence! AR.Drone Parrot - First quadricopter that can be controlled by an iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad and Android

 

[nicajack]

The powers that be won't be able to resist using them for violating our rights and privacy. Learning how far will we have to lead them???

 

[csnoski]

HR 658 Signed Today

I sent my congressman (Stutzman) an atta-boy today for being only 1 of 12 repubs that voted against this.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

The List OF 75 US Senators Who Voted To Let 30,000 Drones Shoot Americans In The Streets

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Mark Begich (D-AK)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Scott Brown (R-MA)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
John Hoeven (R-ND)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Dan Inouye (D-HI)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
John Kerry (D-MA)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Joe Lieberman (ID-CT)
Dick Lugar (R-IN)
Joe Manchin (D-WV)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
John Reed (D-RI)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
John Thune (R-SD)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Mark Udall (D-CO)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)

Let me get this straight, since no one else seems to have commented on it: you're saying this bill actually says that the government will allow 30,000 armed drones to kill US citizens in the streets of America? Can you quote the language to me, please?

 

[Al B]

Take a look at some of these videos on the research at Penn State. Interesting stuff.
The technology is changing and improving quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDmel

 

[csnoski]

Just More Privacy Issues Never Imagined by FF

Our elected lawmakers need to start thinking about privacy issues more seriously. Cell phone cameras already present problems and street corner cameras have been foisted on us without discussion.

I am of the opinion that if one of these 'drones' (I saw some on news tonite that looked like hummingbirds) hover over my property for more than 1 minute or so that should constitute trespassing. If a utitlity or some such other 'legitimate' aerial photography is planned for a neighborhood, advance notice should be given. Law enforcement drones had better be well marked. I plan on starting some target practice this spring w my shotgun at 50 yards for something the size of a hummingbird.

There were many reasonable uses presented on the news tonite, but what about house thieves that use this technology for a few days to case a neighborhood? I don't even want to think about Govt misuse. What I am really starting to think about is that while I do nothing 'illegal' today to fear surveillance, that can change with a stroke of Obama's (or any other state and local officials') pen.

 

[RMOR]

A link to another story on the drones. I don't see a positive outcome to this program.

DHS To Launch Insurgent-Tracking Drones Inside America | Mountain Republic

 

[RMOR]

I just might have to take up wing shooting.

Folks in South Carolina are thinking the same thing!

Animal rights group says drone shot down

 

[serpicostraight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAwdixodjw roddy piper knows why they are bringing the drones in.

 

[WWIIIDefender]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEL1sNYv824&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2ea5c34FAAAAAAAAAAA