.22LR Rifle Range Fun

[Noble Sniper]

Have read and re read this thread and enjoyed it. Haven’t bought a new 22 for awhile and have never owned a CZ and everything I hear seems to be good so picked up a new CZ Pro Varmint today as well as some new Leupold glass. Nice little rifle!!!

 

[gmcttr]

When determining scoring on a ring target, to the best of my knowledge ( ), the standard is the "leaded edge" of the hole. If the leaded edge breaks or touches the scoring line, it counts for that higher score.

That's how I measure groups, as well. Inner edge to outer edge of furthest impacts and then a quick center-to-center check to verify.

It seems like some paper targets (thick/dense) tear very near the leaded edge and some tear very inconsistently.

FWIW, with these cardboard targets the leaded edge measures .220" and with lighter paper targets slightly less.



You can use a scoring gauge on individual holes to better determine if a scoring line was touched. The "leaded edge" tends to under score on ringed targets.







Did it touch the ring for the higher score?



Yes it did...I think...lol.



While we are talking groups, these 3 shots are the 5 shot groups I want and haven't shot yet.

 

[T-DOGG]

See, we just needed someone smarter than me to explain it better.

 

[gmcttr]

See, we just needed someone smarter than me to explain it better.

I thought you did an excellent job explaining the realities of measuring groups.

As long as the same method is used by the same person to measure groups shot on the same paper and backer, you have comparable results. Since this is rarely the case on INGO, I tend not to compare absolute numbers.

 

[mcapo]

I thought you did an excellent job explaining the realities of measuring groups.

As long as the same method is used by the same person to measure groups shot on the same paper and backer, you have comparable results. Since this is rarely the case on INGO, I tend not to compare absolute numbers.

No way does that touch. What is this? We score our own targets. I call for an appeal.

 

[T-DOGG]

You guys can settle it with a shoot off.

 

[gmcttr]

You guys can settle it with a shoot off.

As long as I get to score my own target.

 

[johntheplinker]

Thanks for renewing this thread. Nobody has posted any photos, target results, comments, nuttin. Come on .22lr shooters lets hear from you.

Dad Smith, I bought some Eley Force last year thinking it was the same as Eley Action Plus (rebranded seconds for ammo that doesn't meet their standards), they have the same specs. But it didn't shoot as well as the Action Plus in a Ruger Precision Rimfire. I thought it was odd since it was same manufacturer and same specs.

Been taking a break for a while. Also I've been busy with work and family stuff so haven't done a lot of shooting lately. Did pick up a new T1x a few months back that is still a virgin and going to Form 1 a couple of suppressors...

 

[KMaC]

Been taking a break for a while. Also I've been busy with work and family stuff so haven't done a lot of shooting lately. Did pick up a new T1x a few months back that is still a virgin and going to Form 1 a couple of suppressors...

You have a lot more self control than me to be able to wait months to shoot a new gun.

 

[johntheplinker]

You have a lot more self control than me to be able to wait months to shoot a new gun.

Self control? Me? hahahahahaha Nope, just a lack of time. Only shooting I've done the last few months was to check the scopes on my yote rigs, and that was rushed at that.

 

[Mongo59]

Welcome back John, I for one missed your avatar!

 

[rala]

Baby Bergara Range report:

First outing with the BMR. It shot pretty well. In fact pretty impressively. Trigger is about 2.5 lbs, crisp with no creep , a little over-travel, but nothing serious. Does not seem to sensitive about ammo. In my mind that's the sign of a good barrel. Didn't need any seasoning or break-in. I cleaned it and checked it with the borescope band before firing, It's clean, with very few tool marks. Sighted in at 25 and shot some bug hole groups. I moved back to 50 for some more formal testing. So far SK rifle Match is the winner, but not by much. Mags worked well mostly, dropped clean, and are easy to handle. However the 10 rounder will only take 8 comfortably. 9 is a struggle, 10 is a fight.
So what are the cons? Well the 8/10 round mag. Plus they are not available anywhere. Even on Bergara's site. The stock is hollow plastic, so it has a definite muzzle forward balance. I will have to add some weight to the butt stock to get a more neutral balance. Also needs a cheek riser. It would be an ok design if Bergara didn't put the rail on, but now it;s too low. Hopefully some aftermarket chassis will show up soon.

Targets were shot at 50 yards with all 5 shot groups. grid is 1/4 in pattern. center diamond is 1/2 in. I didn't change any scope settings between targets.

It's a keeper. Only minor work and it will be an excellent NRL production gun.

 

[johntheplinker]

Welcome back John, I for one missed your avatar!

Thanks Mongo! It was really nice to unplug for a while.

 

[KMaC]

I'm gonna keep this thread alive even if it means boring everyone. Here is my last target for 2021.
The black targets are used just for sighting and checking the wind, they were not included in my measurement of average group size.
These were shot from a bench with front and rear bags, CZ 457 MTR, Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 scope, SK Standard + ammo at 50 yds.
I am sympathetic to GMCTTR's goal of having the 4th/5th shots stay with the herd.


And another from 2 weeks ago.

Despite covid 2021 has been a pretty good year for me. Hoping for another good year in 2022 and wishing the same for INGO.

 

[Noble Sniper]

That’s some nice groups!!! Anxious to see what my 457 does…..

 

[doddg]

I'm gonna keep this thread alive even if it means boring everyone. Here is my last target for 2021.
The black targets are used just for sighting and checking the wind, they were not included in my measurement of average group size.
These were shot from a bench with front and rear bags, CZ 457 MTR, Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 scope, SK Standard + ammo at 50 yds.
I am sympathetic to GMCTTR's goal of having the 4th/5th shots stay with the herd.
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And another from 2 weeks ago.
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Despite covid 2021 has been a pretty good year for me. Hoping for another good year in 2022 and wishing the same for INGO.

I would be ecstatic if I could have anyone of those circles on my targets: very nice!

 

[gmcttr]

I'm gonna keep this thread alive even if it means boring everyone. Here is my last target for 2021.
The black targets are used just for sighting and checking the wind, they were not included in my measurement of average group size.
These were shot from a bench with front and rear bags, CZ 457 MTR, Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 scope, SK Standard + ammo at 50 yds.
I am sympathetic to GMCTTR's goal of having the 4th/5th shots stay with the herd.
...Despite covid 2021 has been a pretty good year for me. Hoping for another good year in 2022 and wishing the same for INGO.

VERY nice shooting.

I did not fare as well in yesterdays shooting.

 

[jwamplerusa]

Father's Mossberg 42b, with a cheap scope, 25 yards, standing with elbows supported, 4 rounds.

 

[TJ Kackowski]

Standing with elbows supported?!? I'm not visualizing this shooting position ... please explain. If you're getting groups like that from standing, I want to know more.

 

[doddg]

VERY nice shooting.

I did not fare as well in yesterdays shooting.

I know what you mean, the last time I shot rifles I was determined to take it back to 50 yds since 100 yds wasn't bringing me the happiness that 50 yds did.