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  • KG1

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    Added new grips. Looks and feels much better. It’s the only change that I’m planning to make. Everything else so far is very satisfactory. No regrets.
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    drillsgt

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    Don't post often. First time caller ,long time listener you might say. Couple I've recently picked up. The wilson is 38 super and 9mm combo. The other built by Ross Clark @2010 (best guess).
    You probably mean Ross Carter, that's a nice gun, he was one of the higher end builders, he still has somewhat of a website but i'm not sure if he's really building anymore?
     

    Hopper

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    Grail gun! I've been looking for this for years it seems. Today it finally came together.

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    Hopper

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    Pretty nice upgrade to your TCP, Hopper. This is what I really wanted, when I was looking at your TCP. Only, I want the black Commander version. You got one of those? :)

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    @mmpsteve - Indiana Gun Club had one over the weekend - the "Duty Finish" Specialist Commander in 45 ACP. The 2020+ Specialists in 9mm are only available in 5" length, no more commanders (at least at the moment and according to the DW website) for 9mm.
     

    Expat

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    Just in from the CMP Phase II event. 1943 Remington Rand frame/Colt slide. It joins my 1918 Colt 1911 and my 1943 Colt frame/Ithica slide 1911a1 plus some newer commercial versions of the 1911. Oh, that is a shadow on the front of the barrel and slide.
    Very nice R. Congrats.
     

    churchmouse

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    Just in from the CMP Phase II event. 1943 Remington Rand frame/Colt slide. It joins my 1918 Colt 1911 and my 1943 Colt frame/Ithica slide 1911a1 plus some newer commercial versions of the 1911. Oh, that is a shadow on the front of the barrel and slide.
    Excellent
     

    r3126

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    Just in from the CMP Phase II event. 1943 Remington Rand frame/Colt slide. It joins my 1918 Colt 1911 and my 1943 Colt frame/Ithica slide 1911a1 plus some newer commercial versions of the 1911. Oh, that is a shadow on the front of the barrel and slide.
    I posted the following on the CMP website, looking for some learned advice. While this might be a slight thread highjack, I will post it here and see what thoughts someone/anyony might have.

    Years back (1962), I purchased a 1911a1 from the old Department of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM). Carried it/qualified with it for 23 years including 3 trips to Vietnam. Over the years, I swapped out a lot of the parts with various USMC armories with no problems. The Colt frame/Ithica slide resides in my gun safe today with occasional trips to the range. Like a lot of the 1911's I have experienced over the years, it is loose with ample tolerences (it rattles when shaken).

    Early this year, I applied for and received a 1911 thru the Phase II CMP program, a Remington Rand frame/Colt slide. (As an aside, based on a phone conversation with CMP Anniston prior to submitting my application, my purchase thru DCM did not disqualify me for Phase II). Upon receipt of the Phase II pistol, I had a bright thought... Why not swap the Colt slide from the Phase II onto the Colt frame from 1962 and have a complete Colt and a mixmaster second 1911a1. Lo and behold, the slide would not go on the frame - tolerances made the slide stick and could not moved more than 1/4 of the way into position. I did notice, when I received the Phase II pistol, that it was very tight - everything functioned fine but, as I said, the pistol was as tight as any 1911 I have ever seen, held or used. Needless to say, both pistols are returned to their previous state.

    My obvious question is, why is the Colt slide so tight a fit on the Phase II pistol frame and why will it not interchange with the (earlier) Colt frame? Has the Phase II pistol been worked on to tighten the tolerances or is this just random extremes of tolerance/fit? I shot some competition pistol matches with the MCRD San Diego pistol team (way back when) in the Western Division Matches and used match prepared 1911's. The tightness and fit of this Phase II reminds me of those "days of yore". Thanks for any thoughts!
     

    churchmouse

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    I posted the following on the CMP website, looking for some learned advice. While this might be a slight thread highjack, I will post it here and see what thoughts someone/anyony might have.

    Years back (1962), I purchased a 1911a1 from the old Department of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM). Carried it/qualified with it for 23 years including 3 trips to Vietnam. Over the years, I swapped out a lot of the parts with various USMC armories with no problems. The Colt frame/Ithica slide resides in my gun safe today with occasional trips to the range. Like a lot of the 1911's I have experienced over the years, it is loose with ample tolerences (it rattles when shaken).

    Early this year, I applied for and received a 1911 thru the Phase II CMP program, a Remington Rand frame/Colt slide. (As an aside, based on a phone conversation with CMP Anniston prior to submitting my application, my purchase thru DCM did not disqualify me for Phase II). Upon receipt of the Phase II pistol, I had a bright thought... Why not swap the Colt slide from the Phase II onto the Colt frame from 1962 and have a complete Colt and a mixmaster second 1911a1. Lo and behold, the slide would not go on the frame - tolerances made the slide stick and could not moved more than 1/4 of the way into position. I did notice, when I received the Phase II pistol, that it was very tight - everything functioned fine but, as I said, the pistol was as tight as any 1911 I have ever seen, held or used. Needless to say, both pistols are returned to their previous state.

    My obvious question is, why is the Colt slide so tight a fit on the Phase II pistol frame and why will it not interchange with the (earlier) Colt frame? Has the Phase II pistol been worked on to tighten the tolerances or is this just random extremes of tolerance/fit? I shot some competition pistol matches with the MCRD San Diego pistol team (way back when) in the Western Division Matches and used match prepared 1911's. The tightness and fit of this Phase II reminds me of those "days of yore". Thanks for any thoughts!
    The 1942 Colt I inherited from my uncle has been through the same as your 1911. It was with him all the way through his service. It has been given a similar treatment that Camp Perry does and it is a bit tighter than a normal duty piece.
    Does yours have any indications of receiving this level of attention. They lay out slides/frames etc and select the best fits towards the end goal of a well fit up 1911. The one I did own had all the camp Perry markings and it, like your newer one was a very tight piece.

    Did you try the slide from the DCM gun on the CMP piece.....?????
     

    r3126

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    The 1942 Colt I inherited from my uncle has been through the same as your 1911. It was with him all the way through his service. It has been given a similar treatment that Camp Perry does and it is a bit tighter than a normal duty piece.
    Does yours have any indications of receiving this level of attention. They lay out slides/frames etc and select the best fits towards the end goal of a well fit up 1911. The one I did own had all the camp Perry markings and it, like your newer one was a very tight piece.

    Did you try the slide from the DCM gun on the CMP piece.....?????
    There is no indication that the pistol has undergone any special rework other than routine rebuild subsequent to WWII.
    As I understand the CMP process on the two Phases of the 1911 resale program, CMP received boxes full of 1911s from the various military storage facilities. They did little rework on them prior to ultimate shipment. Again, as I understand, they took a pistol from a box, checked it for functionablilty and packed it for shipment to the recipient.

    Indicated below is a 10 minute YouTube video that explains the program. I believe it has been published on INGO in the past. I have swapped frames and slides around. The Phase II slide will not fit on any other frame. Other slides will fit the Phase II frame but the tolerances are tighter than on their original frame. Does that make sense?


    Thanks to all for the interest in my behalf.
     

    churchmouse

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    There is no indication that the pistol has undergone any special rework other than routine rebuild subsequent to WWII.
    As I understand the CMP process on the two Phases of the 1911 resale program, CMP received boxes full of 1911s from the various military storage facilities. They did little rework on them prior to ultimate shipment. Again, as I understand, they took a pistol from a box, checked it for functionablilty and packed it for shipment to the recipient.

    Indicated below is a 10 minute YouTube video that explains the program. I believe it has been published on INGO in the past. I have swapped frames and slides around. The Phase II slide will not fit on any other frame. Other slides will fit the Phase II frame but the tolerances are tighter than on their original frame. Does that make sense?


    Thanks to all for the interest in my behalf.

    Perfect sense.
    when those were built tolerances were a very wide band of acceptance. Get them out the door and into the fight was the only goal.
    There is a strong possibility the tight slide is at the minimum end of tolerance or it has been “Tightened” up to the slide it is on.
    it’s not that difficult to fit the tight slide to the Colt frame so you can have a “Colt” and who knows what parts are with what gun since manf.
     

    Steel and wood

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    Posted a few days back. Thought since this thread had spun towards CMP I would add a few more. On the bottom is a CMP Ithaca from late in the first draw. It has Austrian proof marks on it. The Ithaca slide on the top one is on an early colt rs frame.
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    Wow thanks for sharing your war horses
     

    DocIndy

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    So here is the latest “fix” for my 1911 addiction. Colt lightweight Commander that AllenM had shown some love to. Was formerly dark OD Cerakote. I just couldn’t get over the color. Allen worked his Cerakote magic with a titanium frame and midnight blue slide. Added the VZ Operator III grips (like them but damn the front area is very pointy, almost painful) and this one is ready for a workout on paper and some steel. CF29E9D7-2123-426B-826D-74B472A57AAC.jpeg
     
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