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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      No, this is biology.
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      No, not at all…I am illustrating what I consider another facet of the same argument/position. I like looking at things from different perspectives and seeing how that affects my positions. The vast majority of abortions in the US are pharmaceutically-induced miscarriages. I think that is...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Yeah…those careless 10 year-olds just need consequences for being too sexy around their stepfathers. Your position is so extreme your entire state voted against even considering it again…ever. Even your precious orange god-emperor knows your position is self-defeating and he is desperate to...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      On an average day in the US 2-3 women will die in childbirth. You are considering the odds over the stakes, I think that is the pregnant woman’s decision alone to make.
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Even in the best-case scenario a woman can only offer her unborn a chance at a live birth. No woman can guarantee her unborn a live birth…to argue that she is legally bound to provide one flies in the face of not only biology, but also logic and empathy. A medical abortion is nothing more than...
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      Ammo Registration at Indy Arms in BR?

      I was thinking something lIke… if they get sued by someone who claims they bought ammo there, but their name doesn’t appear on the “bought ammo here” list the store might use that as a defense against the charges in that suit. I am obviously not a lawyer, so please forgive my ignorance. That...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      I agree with every point you made here.
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      I appreciate the effort and thoughtfulness you put into your posts, they always give me something new to think about.
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      Ammo Registration at Indy Arms in BR?

      I don’t know any more about the story. Is it possible they are tying to shield themselves from civil liability? IDK, can a victim‘s group sue retailers for selling ammo to a guy who uses it to kill people? Is that a thing?
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Um…okay…let’s see how this plays out. They do? Well, ****…I guess there’s no need for all these guns, then...we got laws! At ALL points in pregnancy killing the unborn harms it. Yeah…I don’t. I think it is a persons right to harm themselves…right up to causing their own death. I think...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      You cannot ”save babies” with legislation without also controlling the behavior of women by limiting their available options…I’m not defending anything, I’m trying to point out these two concepts are inextricably linked. I don’t think “anti-abortion people“ are a monolith, and I don’t think...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Why do you expect me to argue that POV for you? I have told you, repeatedly, I do not hold that position. “Republicans want to ban abortion because they want to control women’s bodies” is not an argument I have ever made because it is not something I believe. What would be consistent with my...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      I read through your post again, and rather than do another big point-for-point response I want to summarize and pivot a bit to address a specific point you made: The “up to birth” position is the most logical opposing position to take when faced with the “abortion is murder” position…it’s tit...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Jamil…you are literally making a straw argument to accuse me of making a straw argument. Can you please address the points I make…or at least try to? Okay, I can play this game, too…nuh uh!!! Only a small minority believe abortion is actually murder…even the people who post that nonsense on...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      People make decisions based on how the situation looks to them, though, not us. At the voting booth their view of any given issue is just as valid as mine or yours…don’t you agree? Okay, I can work with that as a given in this discussion. And the right says abortion is murder. Seems like...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      I agree with you about RvW being a serious judicial overstep. I also agree that the repeal was a legitimate legal remedy for the problems created by the original RvW decision. However, I also recognize that overturning the decision takes a previously-recognized legal right away from people…and...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Watch the ad, then re-read the title of the thread. You are nostalgic about cheap gas…women are nostalgic about surviving pregnancy. Which one helps Trump more in 2024…votes from people who believe Trump’s ********, or voting-age women of every demographic and political stripe?
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      Trump 2024 — The second term

      It goes from “completely vindicated” to “plead guilty to RICO” in one page… …and still no Kraken!
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      This is an ad from the Biden campaign…seven months away from the election: The general election isn‘t the primaries…Trump needs more than MAGA to win, and you are kidding yourselves if you think abortion moves the needle in Trump’s direction this November. Personally, I think it would be...
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      The Effect of "Abortion Rights" on the Political Landscape

      Okay, this is good…I like this…I don’t expect you to agree with my point, but I am certain that you understand the argument I was making. I really appreciate the follow-up response. I felt like I was making a solid argument, but I could see it was just not landing. I run into this problem with...
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