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Extraterrestrial life
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snowwalker
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That is the problem. If, could be, maybe, might, and so on are not based in fact but are wishful thinking.
The facts don't support this approach. I don't believe in time travel either.
Since there is no evidence to support little green men, it is more likely Bigfoot is real than astronauts from outer space.
There also were no facts that an iPhone would be more powerful than a 70’s mainframe…
Somebody told me yesterday that they (whoever "they" are) are trying to figure out a way to save your consciousness into a "cloud".
I truly cannot get my arms around that thought.
We're just getting over one of the biggest scams in history and I'm to believe science can tell me there are TRILLIONS of galaxies and the crystals on Mars means they once had life on it?
Comon' next you'll have believing that hair spray is responsible for global warming and that if we do not act now, the world will die.......30 years ago? Wait, let me call Al Gore to explain all of this to us; after we talk to Fauci about bats!
Read some sci-fi where space travel was done that way. Too many G's for flesh.
Then at a planet, they'd grow you a body.
At one time, when the horseless carriage was first produced, it was thought that the human body could not survive speeds in excess of 60 MPH. I think every one of us has disproved that in our lifetime.
There was a time when there was a "Sound Barrier" that could not be exceeded. I have friends in uniform that disprove that one every day.
That brings us to the speed of light. Maybe Star Trek was ahead of it's time when they called it "Warp factor 1" and more. What if long distance travel is by warping time and not exceeding it?
My head hurts and I need a nice whiskey about now.
There was a time when there was a "Sound Barrier" that could not be exceeded. I have friends in uniform that disprove that one every day.
That brings us to the speed of light. Maybe Star Trek was ahead of it's time when they called it "Warp factor 1" and more. What if long distance travel is by warping time and not exceeding it?
My head hurts and I need a nice whiskey about now.
I think the question should be refined a bit. Are we talking about extraterrestrial life or extraterrestrial intelligence? Whether sentient life exist outside of Earth is far more provocative question than alien bacteria four billion years ago, but maybe that's just me.
A comment was made above about appealing to the authority of an unquantifiable being as the standard for refuting the possible existence of extraterrestrial life. It seems to me the reverse is true.
I've seen it stated by atheists many times that they have been presented with no reliable evidence of God. I will apply that same standard to extraterrestrial intelligence. I'll believe in aliens when I see one. Little green protozoa aside.
A comment was made above about appealing to the authority of an unquantifiable being as the standard for refuting the possible existence of extraterrestrial life. It seems to me the reverse is true.
I've seen it stated by atheists many times that they have been presented with no reliable evidence of God. I will apply that same standard to extraterrestrial intelligence. I'll believe in aliens when I see one. Little green protozoa aside.
AndreusMaximus
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Well, I see your point and I think I agree with your conclusions, but it's also important to remember that we shouldn't fall into either the trap of believing that all "scientific" claims should be accepted without question, nor that they should all be rejected off-hand. The entire point of the scientific process is that claims are not made based on a person's authority, but rather on evidence that can be examined, questioned, and refuted by anyone based on logical thinking (true, in some cases not everyone has the education level to understand or properly discuss the relevant evidence, but nonsense is still nonsense, and I don't have to fully understand the odds of magnetic crystals forming into lines to see that it's quite a stretch to say that a certain pattern of crystal "proves" there was life on Mars, just like I don't have to be an expert virologist to know that a virus won't be stopped by a paper-thin sheet of cloth.)
A lot of people say things like "I don't believe in religion, I believe in science" (or vice versa, though I don't hear that one stated explicitly very often.) Either statement seems like patent nonsense to me. Science is a process, and nowadays what is commonly referred to as "science" encompasses a vast array of different fields, occupied by wildly different sorts of people, many of whom have nothing to do with actual science except for the string of letters after their name.
I have very firm religious beliefs, and I have beliefs based in science as well (and I have religious beliefs that are influenced by scientific findings, and vice versa) but in either case, I believe things that are logical are reasonable based on the available evidence, and where direct evidence is not available or is beyond my understanding, I believe statements from individuals based on how trustworthy they seem to be. But I never believe a certain thing just because "science says" or "religion says" it's so. I also try to never reject anyone for questioning any of my beliefs, and am glad to provide my reasons for believing them, and discuss them openly.
Okay, sorry for the random and slightly off-topic rant, I'll put my soap box away now...
I feel science has proven the existance of God; not that He needed scientific proof. I feel people decline that conclusion for reasons specific to them and their lifestyle / character.
Or they are so far away that they have no clue we even exist. Even if something else exists in our Galaxy, the chance of them learning about us is miniscule. Take it to another Galaxy, and the chance is basically zero.
I agree with this. If one believes the Bible (which I do), the absence of information about any given subject is simply the absence of any information. It is not evidence that the subjects not discussed don't exist.
I do believe there are other beings than us that exist...
Seen and unseen.
Even with the way bacteria grows...
With waste being dumped in the air from flight and also trips to the moon....
Something has grown and evolution has evolved that growth.
Wherever it is.
Seen and unseen.
Even with the way bacteria grows...
With waste being dumped in the air from flight and also trips to the moon....
Something has grown and evolution has evolved that growth.
Wherever it is.
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