To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

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  • JeepHammer

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    Quote:
    "Just do not let them set precedent on a virus with a 99.8 percent survival rate."
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    Not true, but the only thing from above I take offense with.

    It's 99.8% (roughly) of the entire US population (roughly 330 million).

    Reduce that to people that GET INFECTED it drops to roughly 86%.
    You have to be infected to die with it, so you can't use the uninfected in a survival rate.

    This also doesn't address the damage the disease does to survivors.
    More than 40% of survivors have ongoing medical issues even when they recover.

    About 10% of vaccinated *CAN* catch the delta strain, along with the 10% or so the vaccine doesn't do much for. (90% effective, 10% not effective)
    There still isn't a single case of vaccinated dying of delta unless there was an underlying condition,
    So even the 90% effective vaccines seem to help if you catch the delta strain and aren't seriously screwed up before infection.

    Since I'm missing 3/4 of a lung (military injury/communist bullet) and have ongoing issues with that, I got my vaccine when it became available to me...
    No strings pulled, waited like everyone else.

    I also came out of retirement to work the food shortages at the front end of this, going to cities with the highest infection rates... So you bet I did the mask/disinfection thing!
    (Not an idiot)

    I'm back in masks & disinfecting since I'm still in areas with high delta infection rates...
    Damn shame too since this should have been over by now.
     

    d.kaufman

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    About 10% of vaccinated *CAN* catch the delta strain, along with the 10% or so the vaccine doesn't do much for. (90% effective, 10% not effective)
    If only "10% of vaccinated can catch the virus" how do explain the breakout in Massachusetts where 75% were vaccinated, or Israel where that number has been hovering at 50% of those testing positive are vaccinated?
     

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    BugI02

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    Look up what Luc Montagnier is saying about the vaccine (you'll need to find a translation of the French interview, their are several out there with subtitles)

    He's a Nobel laureate virologist who shared the the 2008 prize for his work characterizing HIV

    The US guy claiming to have invented mRNA vaccines is a fraud, the groundwork was done by a woman
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Ive been wondering this the whole time is septic tank magic water?? WHAT ELSE IN THIS WORLD AM I MISSING!!!
    We were forced to hook up to city sanitary sewers last year, and they filled in our septic tank that had been working just fine since 1952. We're starting to get really thirsty! If it weren't for drinking bleach, I don't know how we'd be getting by!
     

    singlesix

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    These are the types of people we are dealing with: (recent vist to a restaurant)
    Women flower pattern cloth mask on, big gaps on the side. Her friend isn't wearing a mask.
    Drink comes mask lady removes mask takes a drink and puts mask on. Mask less friend talking her face off less 2 ft from mask lady.

    Food comes, mask lady takes off her mask and starts stuffing her face ....
     

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    I love this. The cherry picking of information, the ignoring facts and studies that don't agree and then completely moving the goalposts and introducing strawman after strawman to make the narrative fit.

    Sad. Truly sad. I am not going to bother linking the studies because it'll be ignored but the plain facts are: Those that have had the V (not that one you pervs) and recovered share the same reinfection rates as those with the jab and no previous infection. Close to 60% of new covid cases are being seen in people previously not infected and vax'd. Being a recovered V patient getting the 2 jab dose actually REDUCES your immunity. Masks have been proven 100 times over to be ineffective.

    So please, with that information present how can you possibly think that "get the jab, wear the mask" is actually going to do anything?
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    It's 99.8% (roughly) of the entire US population (roughly 330 million).
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    Wrong. A survival rating isn’t based on the population, it’s based on how many survivors from the infected group.

    Also, as to your “find an ER doctor who agrees with your stated view point”. Well, there’s a couple here, and my sister in law works in an ER, and has the same view point. You really should stop the projections, it hasn’t worked out too well in your favor.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    I love this. The cherry picking of information, the ignoring facts and studies that don't agree and then completely moving the goalposts and introducing strawman after strawman to make the narrative fit.

    Sad. Truly sad. I am not going to bother linking the studies because it'll be ignored but the plain facts are: Those that have had the V (not that one you pervs) and recovered share the same reinfection rates as those with the jab and no previous infection. Close to 60% of new covid cases are being seen in people previously not infected and vax'd. Being a recovered V patient getting the 2 jab dose actually REDUCES your immunity. Masks have been proven 100 times over to be ineffective.

    So please, with that information present how can you possibly think that "get the jab, wear the mask" is actually going to do anything?
    1. “Find a scientist that disagrees”

    2. Found a scientist that disagrees.

    3. Censor scientist that disagrees

    4. “Find a scientist that disagrees”
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    About 10% of vaccinated *CAN* catch the delta strain, along with the 10% or so the vaccine doesn't do much for. (90% effective, 10% not effective)
    There still isn't a single case of vaccinated dying of delta unless there was an underlying condition,
    So even the 90% effective vaccines seem to help if you catch the delta strain and aren't seriously screwed up before infection.


    I'm back in masks & disinfecting since I'm still in areas with high delta infection rates...
    Damn shame too since this should have been over by now.
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    snapping turtle

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    I have read that it was o neg that was especially immune to the virus.
    Where did you get your info ?
    just curios.



    So it appears 0 positive .87 is slight more at risk than type O negative at .82. And many sites state that these statistical study’s are now not seen as valid. The info I got was from dr Campbell on YouTube a doctor I followed for the start of the pandemic and sometimes still check in with. I think he teaches nursing and I liked him using a marker and paper instead of slides or a screen shot.
    I have read that it was o neg that was especially immune to the virus.
    Where did you get your info ?
    just curios.
    well you are correct. I am wrong.(**** did someone on INGO state they were wrong)

    I am o negative (universal donor) not O positive. So we share Tigers Blood (insert Charlie Sheen insult here). Maybe the jab has given me brain fog and caused me to forget my blood type. (Truthfully I remember I am universal donor and figured it was o positive..

    I have also heard they invalidated those statistical studies but the numbers still point out that o blood types fair much better than AB A or B. And RH-fair better that RH positive. Universal donors with antibody counts high can make 600 a week as plasma donors.
     

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