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  • Leadeye

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    I wouldn't sell the machine short on this, not that it's going make a difference in the drug/industrial complex murder rate. Like the signs in Lafayette, be watchful.

    Always follow the money
     

    dak109

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    It wouldn’t surprise me to see the legislature exempt Marion County from the preemption statute. It’s not like the State make special rules for different municipalities throughout the the state.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    It wouldn’t surprise me to see the legislature exempt Marion County from the preemption statute. It’s not like the State make special rules for different municipalities throughout the the state.

    Given there was serious talk of the state taking over law enforcement in Marion Co after the riots, I doubt it. The state wants more control over the capitol city, not less.
     

    ratames

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    Why do reporters not ask this pos some questions?

    Has anyone asked joe hog**** where he was when the rioters were burning and looting the city and he told law enforcement to stand down?

    Hey hog****.
    Where were you on May 29, 2021, May 30, 2021, and May 31 of 2021?

    Where the **** were you and what the **** were you doing?

    Given there was serious talk of the state taking over law enforcement in Marion Co after the riots, I doubt it. The state wants more control over the capitol city, not less.
    I agree, before I moved out of Marion county last year, I sensed a great level of frustration over the wins democrats have experienced in Indy of late.
     

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    “The failure to prosecute, and the failure to track individuals,” he said. “About 65% of all suspects and violent crime, just in Indianapolis alone… had been in the system before… have committed a violent act before. I think we’re missing an opportunity to pay a lot of attention to that individual with a high probability of committing another violent crime.”
    Suprisingly the article had some good quotes and some of its own points on the prosecutor. Including that Marion County voters voted for what they are getting...
     

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    Carter is a ****ing choad, believes he is above all other LE in the state, and does not believe in individual sovereignty or true constitutionalism. He’s the biggest voice preaching against Constitutional Carry and calling for increased tracking and surveillance of Indiana citizens. He is a true statist in definition. The ONLY thing he was close on was the fact that Mears won’t prosecute and that’s a big problem.

    The bottom line is, the exponential growth of progressive politics, programs and policies has led to the dissolution of conservative values and behaviors, which in our history, had been overarchingly rooted in individualism, respect, law and order and personal responsibility. Since those things have been eradicated in an attempt to create a compliant, reliant class of subjects always looking for a handout, the ability to act like a civilized human being has gone out of vogue.

    As long as some animals are more equal than others, the animals are going to act like animals, and as long as the animals acting out continues to grow the state’s power, they will be allowed to act out.
     

    Leadeye

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    At some point a city that provides what criminals want will become run by a criminal machine kept perpetually in power by a criminal constituency.
     
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    Just a random thought, not sure of how it might actually work....
    I grew up with IPD. Many moons later, IPD and Marion County Sheriff Dept. merged, voila IMPD. It seemed reasonable (at the time to a younger Manifest Destiny) given unigov and awkward overlap, budgets and such. Perhaps, maybe, IMPD is eliminated and Marion County is policed solely by an elected Sheriff and his deputies, somehow cutting the Mayor, whomever that may be, out of the law enforcement business. The people get to vote for who polices them and, importantly, what areas of enforcement are focused on. That wouldn't address a derelict prosecutor (he's already subject to voting) but it would eliminate the de facto edicts from Hogg****er and any future successors. I'm not suggesting all current IMPD officers be let go, just reassigned to a county equivalent position that isn't controlled by a Mayor, but rather responds to the citizen voter via an elected Sheriff. It'll never be perfect but what Indy has now is failing, various reasons to be sure. But the two biggest reasons seem to be politics at the top coupled with a derelict prosecutor. We can eliminate one of those reasons by simply returning policing to citizens via an elected law enforcement officer.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    Just a random thought, not sure of how it might actually work....
    I grew up with IPD. Many moons later, IPD and Marion County Sheriff Dept. merged, voila IMPD. It seemed reasonable (at the time to a younger Manifest Destiny) given unigov and awkward overlap, budgets and such. Perhaps, maybe, IMPD is eliminated and Marion County is policed solely by an elected Sheriff and his deputies, somehow cutting the Mayor, whomever that may be, out of the law enforcement business. The people get to vote for who polices them and, importantly, what areas of enforcement are focused on. That wouldn't address a derelict prosecutor (he's already subject to voting) but it would eliminate the de facto edicts from Hogg****er and any future successors. I'm not suggesting all current IMPD officers be let go, just reassigned to a county equivalent position that isn't controlled by a Mayor, but rather responds to the citizen voter via an elected Sheriff. It'll never be perfect but what Indy has now is failing, various reasons to be sure. But the two biggest reasons seem to be politics at the top coupled with a derelict prosecutor. We can eliminate one of those reasons by simply returning policing to citizens via an elected law enforcement officer.

    IMPD *was* under the sheriff when the merger first happened, but they pulled the rug out from under Frank Anderson before too long and put it back under the mayor and CC. Honestly, the problem isn't in enforcement and isn't in the mayor's office IMO. I actually prefer being under a mayor. Sheriff's being elected is a double edged sword. Buy-a-badge programs, political donations equate to rank, etc. are more likely to occur under a sheriff system.

    The biggest issue would be budgetary, though. There's a reason they went to IMPD instead of just making everyone a deputy. Deputies' pension is through the county. IPD's pension is part of the state PERF system, as is IMPD's for everyone *not* a former deputy. That's a big liability for the county to assume just to make everyone deputies, even if it was possible to do.
     

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    That wouldn't address a derelict prosecutor (he's already subject to voting) but it would eliminate the de facto edicts from Hogg****er and any future successors

    Ultimately I don't hold Hogsett or Mears responsible and I don't think structural changes are the solution (but they might help).

    Mears won reelection by 18 percentage points in spite of his record. Hogsett was elected in 2015 and reelected in 2019. I'll wager he wins again this fall. Marion Country has the government it voted for.

    The responsibility for who governs lies with the voters. These guys both want to keep their jobs and their current management style works well for that.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    So when Boss Hogg crawled out from under a rock and found a microphone, what did he do? Did he acknowledge how bad things have gotten during the last two terms of him being the Mayor? On pace for a 4th straight year of 200+ homicides? Homeless population out of control? Short 20% of the authized staffing for IMPD? Realize that in 2021 Marion County had 14% of the State's population and 64% of the homicides?

    Of course not! This is leftist-politician 101: spout off about what you would do (if not for existing laws and that pesky SCOTUS) and blame "the gun lobby".

    Maybe it's the criminals, not the law-abiding folks there Hoggnutts. Embolden the criminals and disarm the law-abiding... where do we see this? Oh yeah! Everywhere run by leftists.

    What's amazing, did Soros pay a dime supporting Boss Hogg or Revolving Door Ryan (Mears)??

    I don't live in Marion County, but 14% of Hoosiers do live there. Hopefully enough will show up and vote this walking disaster out of office. Not holding my breath.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    Sounds a lot like Chicago.
    Same. But minor league instead of major league. Up there, its big business colluding with .gov. Down here, its the average mope.

    And its not a myth up there. A restaurant owner was opening his first restaurant outside of Chicago up in NWI. My company had our guys there for the inspection to get clearance for opening. The govt inspector arrived and the owner introduced himself and handed the inspector a fat envelope. The inspector asked "Whats this?" and the owner said "I just wanted to make sure that nothing got in the way of this approval so I could open. I REALLY need to get this done." Everyone looked at each other in shock. The inspector said "Sir, that isnt how that works here. This isnt Chicago." and handed him back the envenlope. Wow.
     
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    Ark

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    Ultimately I don't hold Hogsett or Mears responsible and I don't think structural changes are the solution (but they might help).

    Mears won reelection by 18 percentage points in spite of his record. Hogsett was elected in 2015 and reelected in 2019. I'll wager he wins again this fall. Marion Country has the government it voted for.

    The responsibility for who governs lies with the voters. These guys both want to keep their jobs and their current management style works well for that.
    Yup. In a democracy you get the government you deserve.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Headline: Man who threatened the Indiana General Assembly during winter of 2022 with his hand on his pistol belt suddenly concerned with the Rule of Law, for some reason, when it allows him more power over others.
     
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