Pistol Brace Info

[Amishman44]

I posted this in the legislation thread, but if some of you have not seen it, here is Thomas Massie educating the head of the AFT on the absurdity of this move. At the 1:10 mark, Massie corners Dettelbach on the original SB Brace and it's separation from the buffer tube.

Well stated Mr. Massie...the ATF does not have the legal authority to do what they did!

 

[Aszerigan]

Talking to my lawyer the issue is you cant form a trust to put these in after January. So if you waited to see what was guna happen then your SOL. Essentially these guns die with you.

You can register them individually then transfer them to the trust on a form 4 later. Not totally SOL, there are work arounds.

 

[KLB]

Talking to my lawyer the issue is you cant form a trust to put these in after January. So if you waited to see what was guna happen then your SOL. Essentially these guns die with you.

Why would the gun "die" with you if it isn't in a trust?

 

[FNparabellum]

Why would the gun "die" with you if it isn't in a trust?

Theres no way to transfer it and it gets surrendered to the government who will destroy it because it holds no historical value.

 

[FNparabellum]

You can register them individually then transfer them to the trust on a form 4 later. Not totally SOL, there are work arounds.

Ill check with my guy but it definitely read like that wasn't an option. Of course he hasn't sat down with the ATF so its possible you have info he doesn't.

 

[KLB]

Theres no way to transfer it and it gets surrendered to the government who will destroy it because it holds no historical value.

Is this special for this amnesty?

 

[FNparabellum]

Is this special for this amnesty?

It is for the pistol brace rule. Now the original poster did say you can form a trust later and put it in but cant register it with the trust. So free registration then $200 per item to get it into a trust.

 

[Route 45]

Theres no way to transfer it and it gets surrendered to the government who will destroy it because it holds no historical value.

Does this not apply?

Passing NFA Firearms Down To Your Heirs Without A Gun Trust

Overtime you might have amassed an NFA firearm collection or a single NFA firearm that was approved as an applicant and not as a gun trust or legal entity. But what happens to your NFA firearm collection when you pass away as an individual. How are you going to pass down your NFA firearm...

www.nationalguntrusts.com

 

[BR8818]

Theres no way to transfer it and it gets surrendered to the government who will destroy it because it holds no historical value.

Form 5 for whoever inherits it.

 

[Mgderf]

This discussion will all be moot when this unconstitutional "law" is struck down.

 

[FNparabellum]

Form 5 for whoever inherits it.

The information im getting is that it doesn't qualify. Granted that was a few months ago

 

[Amishman44]

This discussion will all be moot when this unconstitutional "law" is struck down.

That is correct sir in that this rewriting of a regulation is not a constitutionally based 'law'...as a legally enforceable law would be. With a Constitutional-based, or legally enforceable law, the 'change' would have been introduced in the House as a bill, passed through and approved by the Senate, and then signed into law by a President.

 

[Expat]

This discussion will all be moot when this unconstitutional "law" is struck down.

Moot except for the Fact the gun and brace are now registered with the ATF.

 

[Paul30]

the courts should strike it down as trash. If the ATF can't read or understand the law before approving somehting for 10 years, then it is now "in common use" and should remain in common use. Further, ALL SBR should be removed from NFA since they made such a stupid over reach.

MSN

 

[BigRed]

the courts should strike it down as trash.

The atf?

Could not agree more.... scum of the scum.

 

[craigkim]

This thing sure is a pain in the butt. I got my forms submitted. What really perplexes me about this ruling was that I don't see the point at which it accomplishes anything? So, we are being told that there are between 10 and 40 million braces in circulation. With this ruling, law abiding citizens, like myself will register or be compliant, but what percentage of criminals will do so? Is this really going to take the braced pistols out of criminals hands? How often is anything actually done about handguns with Glock switches or full auto conversions when they are found illegally? I suppose it will prevent new purchases, but if 99% of braces get registered, that still leaves hundreds of thousands in circulation which are unregistered right?

 

[KLB]

This thing sure is a pain in the butt. I got my forms submitted. What really perplexes me about this ruling was that I don't see the point at which it accomplishes anything? So, we are being told that there are between 10 and 40 million braces in circulation. With this ruling, law abiding citizens, like myself will register or be compliant, but what percentage of criminals will do so? Is this really going to take the braced pistols out of criminals hands? How often is anything actually done about handguns with Glock switches or full auto conversions when they are found illegally? I suppose it will prevent new purchases, but if 99% of braces get registered, that still leaves hundreds of thousands in circulation which are unregistered right?

It has nothing to do with keeping them out of the hands of criminals.

 

[indykid]

This in about pistol braces!

Federal court deals blow to ATF pistol brace rule ahead of gun accessory registration deadline

Federal appeals court issues temporary injunction blocking ATF from enforcing a rule on pistol stabilizing braces days before owners were required to register with the bureau.

www.foxnews.com

 

[BigRed]

This in about pistol braces!

Federal court deals blow to ATF pistol brace rule ahead of gun accessory registration deadline

Federal appeals court issues temporary injunction blocking ATF from enforcing a rule on pistol stabilizing braces days before owners were required to register with the bureau.

www.foxnews.com

Since the **** sucker was featured in a clip associated with the article, I will take this opportunity to say, "hussein, you can go **** yourself all the way to Hades".

That ******* is nothing but a commie pos.

 

[cbhausen]

I’m with BigRed on this one…**** Obama, **** Biden and **** anyone who wants to infringe on the Second Amendment. Enough is enough and it’s time to regain lost rights, not cede more territory.