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  • Basher

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    You won’t want them, they’re as good as these Sigs….

    If they’re all P320s, you’re right, I don’t want them.

    That being said, I’ll be interested to see what you think after a full year with them. I want to like them, but I don’t trust them much.
     

    BigMoose

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    If they’re all P320s, you’re right, I don’t want them.

    That being said, I’ll be interested to see what you think after a full year with them. I want to like them, but I don’t trust them much.
    Well, you should do your own testing on them, like I did. I mean, I’ve drop tested mine from 8ft onto a carpeted floor, like I have my Glock clones, and had no "discharges". (I used dummy rounds.)
    It’s called: due diligence. ;)
     

    DadSmith

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    I would be confused if my Sig gave me Glock Leg.
    You mean like this?






    Are the Sig M17 and M18 built slightly different?
    I ask because we haven't heard anything from the military about their handguns misfiring like we do Sig P320.
    I highly doubt a bunch of privates, and or officers haven't shot themselves yet it would be un-possible.
     
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    deo62

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    I’ve kinda wondered if these discharges didn’t result from an ill fitted holster. Maybe pinches too tight in trigger area when holstered and the slightest bump finishes off the pull.
     

    cedartop

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    You mean like this?






    Are the Sig M17 and M18 built slightly different?
    I ask because we haven't heard anything from the military about their handguns misfiring like we do Sig P320.
    I highly doubt a bunch of privates, and or officers haven't shot themselves yet it would be un-possible.

    First off, most in the military don't walk around with chamber loaded pistols. I am sure things have changed, but when I was in you didn't see many privates with handguns unless they were MP's. I would like to hear from some current or recent service members to see what the situation is now.
     

    Sigblitz

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    Sig said defective firing pin spring. Sounds like Sig took responsibility for it. Not meaning to bash here, just offering up good information for safety, but Glock's firing pin is captured until the trigger is pulled.
     

    BE Mike

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    Sig said defective firing pin spring. Sounds like Sig took responsibility for it. Not meaning to bash here, just offering up good information for safety, but Glock's firing pin is captured until the trigger is pulled.
    Yes, I am so glad that there have never been an AD with a Glock and no Glocks have ever malfunctioned!:ugh:
     

    Sigblitz

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    This is responding to the ng video that didn't involve human error.
    Pictures are Glock firing pin safety.
     

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    First off, most in the military don't walk around with chamber loaded pistols. I am sure things have changed, but when I was in you didn't see many privates with handguns unless they were MP's. I would like to hear from some current or recent service members to see what the situation is now.
    MP’s carried condition 3 with the 1911. Not sure about the M9.
     

    Basher

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    Yes, I am so glad that there have never been an AD with a Glock and no Glocks have ever malfunctioned!:ugh:

    The VAAAAAST majority of Glock NDs have been just that: NEGLIGENT discharges. People failing to properly clear the firearm before pulling the trigger to disassemble for cleaning. That operator error when it really comes down to it. Is the need to pull the trigger for disassembly a design flaw? I’d argue strongly that it could be, yes. However, the fact remains that if the firearm is properly cleared and the muzzle is pointed in a safe direction, NONE of those NDs would have occurred. Faults on both sides.

    I’m not personally aware of any Glocks discharging themselves when holsters unless there was an obstruction of some form that pulled the trigger. Which is why I use an SCD on mine, just in case.

    Anyway, just wanted to clarify that point. I’m NOT a Sig hater either, I LOVE the P220/226/228/229 and the other classic Sigs. I AM a bit of a P320 hater. It’s just a poor design.
     
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