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    BugI02

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    Seriously? Yes, ND filters decrease the intensity of light hitting your lens. It absolutely does not "dull" the image unless you bought a cheap ass filter. The image is still properly exposed. It just allows you to open up the aperture or lower shutter speed to get the effects you want and still get the exposure right. The important part of a ND filter, it filters the light the same across the entire color spectrum, so there's no color bias added to the image.

    You can also get tinted filters, which intensifies certain colors. If that's what you're going for. I don't recall any teal filters, however, but I never had a purpose to look for one. I'm sure they make one. Seems like it would come in handy if you wanted to emphasize turquoise. Or maybe Trump's qualities.
    Way to ignore the actual meanings of 'dull' in order to find the results you want

    Edit: Not familiar with a filter that would be desired to be teal, but some of the old fluorescent or incandescent light compensation filters might end up being a pastel version of that. The ones I'm most familiar with (FL-D and FL-W) both appear magenta to the eye, but we used some pretty strongly tinted filters for black and white when that was still a thing (yellow and red filters) so there might be a teal filter out there, or maybe a stack of a green and a blue filter. Can't really help you with information useful in your effort to denigrate and belittle my viewpoint, though - not familiar with an actual teal filter
     
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    I don’t recall ANY complaints about these things when people were scared they were going to die…
    I’ve done things in the past that once I learned the error of my ways, I changed. I repented. I adopted new habits, policies, practices. Not expecting someone who once again wants to be president to do the same thing on something now so obviously egregious is excuse making.
     

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    What? Always? Really? Next big thing huh.

    Here's the thing. You think Trump is a proven winner. I'm not so convinced. I think to perfect Trump he would have to change the parts of personality that make him a narcisist incapable of self-reflection. And it wouldn't hurt to up his IQ at least 20 points to put him in the same class as GWB, who was not the brightest bulb in the strand himself. And no one not on the left is doing the left's work. That's nonsense.


    Mindless change for change's sake? How so? I have made a choice to wait until election season and see what happens. But you seem to need for me...which is really ****ing odd, and a little creepy...to be your anti-Trump. That's kinda like an anti-christ, except it's Trump. I've made no secret that I'm not a big fan of Trump, and I think that's your whole problem. You don't like it that I don't care all that much for Trump, and I'm fairly vocal about it. And it appears I hit a nerve. It's not my intent to hit a nerve. But that's what it smells like.
    I submit that you decided not Trump long before there was (to you) a viable alternative and then latched onto someone you can justify to yourself as a better bet. One came long before the other and to paint it as some kind of carefully reasoned choice is retconning at its finest

    Also, the specious attempts to make disagreements with a viewpoint you are so anxious to showcase into some questionable personal obsession is a page right out of Kut's playbook, and it doesn't work any better when you do it and probably not even as well

    As a leading, or at least highly verbose, proponent of anybody but Trump you and I are destined to clash most anywhere you wish to proselytize for your worldview, no need to drag Alinsky-style stratagems into it

    To flip your script, you don't like that I still think Trump is the best bet and that hits a nerve for you. You remind me of a downstream echo of TLex, always asking 'Isn't what Trump has done now enough to change your mind? If not, what will it take'
     

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    Way to ignore the actual meanings of 'dull' in order to find the results you want

    This part of the conversation started with me saying this:
    Wear teal colored glasses. Makes you think everything is teal.

    The point of course, is that you want to view the world through a perspective where Trump is never wrong, and you are never wrong in how you perceive him. And we got into this grey vs colored, sunglasses thing. And then ND filters.

    Continuing the analogy I said this:
    Actually yes. If they’re grey tint, then it’s pretty much color-neutral. Which is beneficial if you want to see colors for what they are.

    If you want to see the world naturally colored, you'd want your sunglasses to use as neutral grey as you can get. But you then tried to twist the metaphor to imply that my preferred choice to see the world as it is, was dull. That was an attempt to deflect the whole point of the metaphor. And I didn't let you. I kept it on point, that you're viewing the world through a tinted lens. And you have not denied that.

    Edit: Not familiar with a filter that would be desired to be teal, but some of the old fluorescent or incandescent light compensation filters might end up being a pastel version of that. The ones I'm most familiar with (FL-D and FL-W) both appear magenta to the eye, but we used some pretty strongly tinted filters for black and white when that was still a thing (yellow and red filters) so there might be a teal filter out there, or maybe a stack of a green and a blue filter. Can't really help you with information useful in your effort to denigrate and belittle my viewpoint, though - not familiar with an actual teal filter
    When I was into photography I did mostly outdoor photography. I used ND filters a lot. Polarizing filter was a necessity on sunny days. I used some color tints on flowers and stuff. But

    I've never seen a teal filter. That was a joke, and part of the metaphor, that you're seeing the world through a tint of your own choosing. You keep claiming I have beliefs I don't hold. And I keep pointing out where you're wrong. Take the tinted glasses off and see for yourself.
     

    jamil

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    I don’t recall ANY complaints about these things when people were scared they were going to die…
    Just as R45 predicted. If it were Joe Biden who pushed operation warp speed, you'd not be digging so hard, looking frantically under every rock to find something--ANYTHING--to justify it. Just like you did with Trump banning bumpstocks by his own whim. First you denied he ordered it. Then when that was debunked you claimed he did it for our own good.

    You can't just admit that, even though he's done some good or even great things, he screwed the pooch on that one. Why? What's wrong with understanding that, yeah, he's going to get things wrong.

    He's a flawed human just like any other. Unless you hoist him on such a high pedistal, you just can't abide thinking that he didn't do EVERYTHING right. He got operation warp speed wrong. And he's still getting it wrong, making claims that are just crazy. no. He didn't save millions of lives. That's just nutty.
     

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    Just as R45 predicted. If it were Joe Biden who pushed operation warp speed, you'd not be digging so hard, looking frantically under every rock to find something--ANYTHING--to justify it. Just like you did with Trump banning bumpstocks by his own whim. First you denied he ordered it. Then when that was debunked you claimed he did it for our own good.

    You can't just admit that, even though he's done some good or even great things, he screwed the pooch on that one. Why? What's wrong with understanding that, yeah, he's going to get things wrong.

    He's a flawed human just like any other. Unless you hoist him on such a high pedistal, you just can't abide thinking that he didn't do EVERYTHING right. He got operation warp speed wrong. And he's still getting it wrong, making claims that are just crazy. no. He didn't save millions of lives. That's just nutty.
    I believe his good qualities have outweighed his bad by a landslide. I also believe most know he is human but are really hopeful about his good qualities and as a result, will focus strictly on the things that make him good.

    At this time, with the situation we are all faced with, nit picking about a very hopeful candidate just gives the opposition more fuel.

    More focus on the good, as we should with all humans.
     

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    When your cult obsessed with personality constantly dredges for anything they can complain about to excuse their
    Just as R45 predicted. If it were Joe Biden who pushed operation warp speed, you'd not be digging so hard, looking frantically under every rock to find something--ANYTHING--to justify it. Just like you did with Trump banning bumpstocks by his own whim. First you denied he ordered it. Then when that was debunked you claimed he did it for our own good.

    You can't just admit that, even though he's done some good or even great things, he screwed the pooch on that one. Why? What's wrong with understanding that, yeah, he's going to get things wrong.

    He's a flawed human just like any other. Unless you hoist him on such a high pedistal, you just can't abide thinking that he didn't do EVERYTHING right. He got operation warp speed wrong. And he's still getting it wrong, making claims that are just crazy. no. He didn't save millions of lives. That's just nutty.

    Who said he was perfect? He is a very flawed human just like any other. He also did more than ANY President in my life that I wanted a President to do, I will defend that track record…

    If I offered you $10 million to race a car to set the track record on the super speedway, offer you the choice of the car that set the record last race or a new experimental car that has not yet raced but looked good on a short track, which one are you choosing?

    The cult obsessed with personality constantly dredges for anything they can complain about to excuse their own insecurities…
     

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    I believe his good qualities have outweighed his bad by a landslide. I also believe most know he is human but are really hopeful about his good qualities and as a result, will focus strictly in the things that make him good.

    At this time, with the situation we are all faced with, nit picking about a very hopeful candidate just gives the opposition more fuel.

    More focus on the good, as we should with all humans.
    This is a sane viewpoint. You're not trying to maintain an umblemished image of Trump by finding absurd excuses for the bad things Trump did.

    Yep. He shouldn't have told the BATFEk'rs to ban bump stocks, he doesn't have that power. But, he quieted down the Norks, presided over a booming economy, and generally had a good term as POTUS.

    In terms of the next run, I'm fine with admitting the faults of all candidates, and admitting the good points of all candidates. And then each person makes his or her own choice. And people don't get butturt over that.

    But we can't have nice things. Some people can't handle other people having different opinions. to me, Trump not having the capacity for introspection over his claims about operation warp speed. That's my opinion. And I don't think it's nitpicking.
     

    Ingomike

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    I believe his good qualities have outweighed his bad by a landslide. I also believe most know he is human but are really hopeful about his good qualities and as a result, will focus strictly on the things that make him good.

    At this time, with the situation we are all faced with, nit picking about a very hopeful candidate just gives the opposition more fuel.

    More focus on the good, as we should with all humans.
    I couldn’t care less about his “qualities”. That is falling for the enemies feelz tactic. It is all about what did you do when you had the chance. Trump did more than any President in my life in the time he had under tremendous pressure. I want that again…
     

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    Who said he was perfect? He is a very flawed human just like any other.
    You don't act like you believe that. Bumpstocks ban, warp speed, etcetera, if it were not Trump you'd be right there condemning that. You can still favor Trump because you think the good outweighs the bad. You don't show any evidence that you think there is any bad because you dig so hard for reasons to excuse it.

    He also did more than ANY President in my life that I wanted a President to do, I will defend that track record…
    That's fine. I think Trump did a lot of good too during his term. Too bad it was all temporary. Pretty much everything he did was through executive actions, many of which he doesn't have the power to do. You don't like it when Biden does that.

    But what Trump did accomplish that is permanent, he showed what America First policies can do to help ordinary Americans achieve their dreams.

    If I offered you $10 million to race a car to set the track record on the super speedway, offer you the choice of the car that set the record last race or a new experimental car that has not yet raced but looked good on a short track, which one are you choosing?
    There's so much wrong with that analogy, but **** it. Let's go with that. I'm choosing the car that didn't **** a porn star, then pay her off, and then give opportunistic DA's a reason to bring charges. I'm choosing the car that didn't go along with big pharma to release a harmful vaccine technology that couldn't get approval otherwise, and then brag that it saved millions of lives. Shall I go on? There's plenty more.

    But that's my opinion. You're entitled to yours.

    The cult obsessed with personality constantly dredges for anything they can complain about to excuse their own insecurities…
    I'm not sure what this is all about. But after reading the definition of cult of personality, are you admitting something?
     

    jamil

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    I couldn’t care less about his “qualities”. That is falling for the enemies feelz tactic. It is all about what did you do when you had the chance. Trump did more than any President in my life in the time he had under tremendous pressure. I want that again…

    Qualities are what makes him who he is. Don't you like his fighting spirit? Don't you like it that he gets into the weeds with his opponents? Saying you don't care about his qualities is obviously ********. It's not that you don't care about his qualities. You don't care that they're bad. You actually like them. And that's fine. You have your reasoning to support Trump.

    But it's more than that, isn't it? Why do you make nonsense excuses about the warp speed thing? Is it that you can't bear to admit that he can be catastrophically wrong about something?

    How about this? Repeat after me:

    "Yes, operation warp speed was stupid. Trump shouldn't have gone along with big pharma. And Trump shouldn't brag about saving millions of people he actually didn't save. But I still support him because on balance I think what he will achieve is more important than his failures."

    I know you're going to choke on that last word. It's normal. Just power through it. You can say it.
     

    jamil

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    Please show your posts proclaiming this point before the hindsight became 20/20…

    Why? I'm not gonna dig that up. But I can narrow it down for you if you really want to dig it up. It was in a conversation with mbills about how the vaccine wasn't even properly vetted. A lot of posters were critical of operation warp speed. Maybe you remember it too.

    If it wasn't Trump that gave it administrative authority, if it were Biden, you'd not be trying to look through the weeds to defend it. Do you think it was wise to bypass the usual safety protocols for new vaccines? I don't.

    Trump was right when he said we don't want the cure to be worse than the disease. First, I want to point out that "right" flowed from my fingers onto the keyboard as easily as any criticism I've ever leveled at Trump. I don't have a problem with saying what I think he did right.

    Second, with such great insight as not wanting the cure to be worse than the disease, why was Trump so reckless with THAT cure? I don't fault Trump completely for that. His gig is real estate. He knew jack **** about guiding the nation through a pandemic. He had to rely heavily on his advisors. And his advisors happened to be snakes in the grass. So I'll give him a little bit of a pass for falling prey to Big Pharma. But, he's bragging that he saved millions of people, which is utter ********. His lack of awareness and his own inability to admit something he got wrong, goes against his fitness for office.
     
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    Now do blanc cheque support for Zelenskyy and Ukraine
    Who on the right blindly makes excuses for a politician who does that? Unless, I guess, that they agree with that sort of policy, which would be outside of the, "my idiot, right or wrong" cult of personality.
     

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    Now do blanc cheque support for Zelenskyy and Ukraine
    I know you are trying to feign intelligence with your faux Eurospeak, which is hilarious in its irony, given widespread European support for Ukraine. But for future reference, it's "chèque en blanc."

    :)
     
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