Multiple victims reported in Nashville, TN school shooting

[courier6]

Meh. I guess I have a higher tolerance. If you want to pick, Fine. Just pick one of the two. (And dont be a jerk about it)

Its when they claim neither or both that I cant take them seriously.

You don't get to pick, luckily a movie summed it up nicely.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I think she's a biological female. She likely presented as a female when cops assessed her remains on the scene. Looks like she was born Audry. Her bio said he/him until someone mysteriously removed it after the fact. So I think it's reasonable to assume she's biologically female.

Bat **** crazy? Yeah. Someone who goes in and shoots up a school is ****ing crazy. Probably her transgenderism wasn't the primary cause. Likely resentment was the cause, and her gender confusion surely at least a little involved. But the mental illness that trans is, isn't the kind that makes you want to kill others.

It will be interesting if they release her manifesto to see why she said she did it. One of the police officers (the chief?) indicated that she did feel resentment toward the school, likely because of her trans issue. If that's the case, then that mental illness did indeed make her want to kill others.

 

[BigRed]

She likely presented as a female when cops assessed her remains on the scene.

Ya think?

 

[bobzilla]

It will be interesting if they release her manifesto to see why she said she did it. One of the police officers (the chief?) indicated that she did feel resentment toward the school, likely because of her trans issue. If that's the case, then that mental illness did indeed make her want to kill others.

I disagree. That mental illness gave her a target. The bat **** crazy part made her want to kill people. I've known many trans people over the years. None homicidal. Most are too focused on themselves to see past that.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I disagree. That mental illness gave her a target. The bat **** crazy part made her want to kill people. I've known many trans people over the years. None homicidal. Most are too focused on themselves to see past that.

Maybe it's a chicken/egg kinda thing, at least with this one.

 

[blain]

My dog has a pretty good life.
He has no responsibilities, has food water and toys provided.
He does his business outside without a twinge of embarrassment.
Man, that's a pretty sweet life!

Now that I think about it, uhm... Going forward, please refer to me as "Rover".
I guess my pronouns will be "Good Boy"? I'm not quite sure how this "identifying as" thing works.

 

[KG1]

It will be interesting if they release her manifesto to see why she said she did it. One of the police officers (the chief?) indicated that she did feel resentment toward the school, likely because of her trans issue. If that's the case, then that mental illness did indeed make her want to kill others.

She/whatever murdered innocent defenseless children for her/whatever resentment. That right there is mentally ***ed up.

 

[jamil]

It will be interesting if they release her manifesto to see why she said she did it. One of the police officers (the chief?) indicated that she did feel resentment toward the school, likely because of her trans issue. If that's the case, then that mental illness did indeed make her want to kill others.

If we're speculating, I think that her childhood community did not treat her well because of her peculiarities. It's how they treated her. Kids get picked on who present themselves as different from the rest. Some kids are resilient enough to get through it. Some just become bitter.

A socially awkward kid for example. These shooters are all that in some way. You've probably socially awkward students in your classroom growing up. Other kids just hound them relentlessly. Not every socially awkward kid grows into an eventual shooter. It's rare. Was it their social awkwardness that caused it? No. It was how they were treated because of their social awkwardness.

Was it her gender confusion that drove her to kill people? Maybe a few here would like to believe it was, but I doubt it. It was more likely retribution for how she was treated by her peers and adults. I'm not saying it's their fault. She's the one who allowed the way she was treated to turn into bitterness and deep resentment. But if she hadn't been treated that way, I doubt she'd have built up that kind of bitterness.

 

[jamil]

Ya think?

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Well, I had to say it in an INGO friendly way.

 

[ditcherman]

If we're speculating, I think that her childhood community did not treat her well because of her peculiarities. It's how they treated her. Kids get picked on who present themselves as different from the rest. Some kids are resilient enough to get through it. Some just become bitter.

A socially awkward kid for example. These shooters are all that in some way. You've probably socially awkward students in your classroom growing up. Other kids just hound them relentlessly. Not every socially awkward kid grows into an eventual shooter. It's rare. Was it their social awkwardness that caused it? No. It was how they were treated because of their social awkwardness.

Was it her gender confusion that drove her to kill people? Maybe a few here would like to believe it was, but I doubt it. It was more likely retribution for how she was treated by her peers and adults. I'm not saying it's their fault. She's the one who allowed the way she was treated to turn into bitterness and deep resentment. But if she hadn't been treated that way, I doubt she'd have built up that kind of bitterness.

Isn’t that kinda two sides of the same coin though? If she chose to be think she was a boy and people picked on her for that, and she let that stress, resulting from her choices (probably with encouragement from others (see the groomers thread)), burn until it exploded, the logical conclusion is that the transgender choice was the foundation for the end result.

Certainly not saying it always like that, but the only kids that come away from being extremely confused successfully have a good support system around them.

 

[KG1]

Apparently Dr. Jill Biden's husband came in search of some chocolate chip ice cream before commenting on what happened in Nashville.

 

[blain]

Apparently Jill Biden's husband came in search of some chocolate chip ice cream before commenting on what happened in Nashville.

Karine Jean-Pierre heard about the school shooting, then Peter Doocy's face flash into her mind. At that point she said "I can't do this today. Get somebody else to go out there."
The staff looked at each other and mumbled... I'm not going out there... Well neither am I.
It was then that Uncle Joe got the memo saying he was scheduled for some Stand-Up at the White House press podium.

 

[KG1]

Karine Jean-Pierre heard about the school shooting, then Peter Doocy's face flash into her mind. At that point she said "I can't do this today. Get somebody else to go out there."
The staff looked at each other and mumbled... I'm not going out there... Well neither am I.
It was then that Uncle Joe got the memo saying he was scheduled for some Stand-Up at the White House press podium.

He took the opportunity to practice his stand up routine at an inappropriate moment. What an out of touch old ass.

 

[printcraft]

So she used a Kel-tec Sub 2000, a pistol brace AR, and a S&W Shield according to the MNPD Twitter feed. They have pictures of the recovered guns.

Lol, yep, there’s the braced pistol.

 

[cosermann]

In addition to disproving (yet again) the fallacy of so-called "gun free zones," this incident also disproves the fallacy of magazine capacity limits, since the perp demonstrated all one needs to do is carry multiple firearms (just like history tells us was done in the old days).

 

[Doug]

If we're speculating, I think that her childhood community did not treat her well because of her peculiarities. It's how they treated her. Kids get picked on who present themselves as different from the rest. Some kids are resilient enough to get through it. Some just become bitter.

A socially awkward kid for example. These shooters are all that in some way. You've probably socially awkward students in your classroom growing up. Other kids just hound them relentlessly. Not every socially awkward kid grows into an eventual shooter. It's rare. Was it their social awkwardness that caused it? No. It was how they were treated because of their social awkwardness.

Was it her gender confusion that drove her to kill people? Maybe a few here would like to believe it was, but I doubt it. It was more likely retribution for how she was treated by her peers and adults. I'm not saying it's their fault. She's the one who allowed the way she was treated to turn into bitterness and deep resentment. But if she hadn't been treated that way, I doubt she'd have built up that kind of bitterness.

I think it's kind of like trying to borrow my neighbor's ladder.
He said he couldn't loan it to me because he had to wash his dog.
I asked what washing his dog had to do with loaning me his ladder.
He said, "It really doesn't have anything to do with it, but if I don't want to loan you my ladder, one reason is as good as another."
"Murderers gonna murder; why don't matter much."

 

[JCSR]

Lol, yep, there’s the braced pistol.

It was on the FBI's "recommended firearm for effect" list.

 

[KG1]

Lol, yep, there’s the braced pistol.

 

[Ark]

She checked her Instagram. She didn't expect a message from The Covenant School shooter.

At 9:57 a.m., a former middle school basketball teammate of Audrey Hale looked at her phone to find a message from The Covenant School shooter on Instagram.

www.newschannel5.com

The murderer tipped at least one person off, but wasn't explicit enough to be actionable. Does sound like, once again, suicide with extra steps was an objective.

 

[Leadeye]

But still. Folks upthread have directly suggested that transgenderism (and assuming related conditions) be added to the 4473 as a mental condition that would disqualify the individual from owning a gun. So yeah. Thats one reason I said to knock it off. Im not talking about anyone outside of INGO with my statement. I'm telling OUR folks to be better than that. Thats all.

Maybe I should clarify.

My point was that there is relentless pressure from leadership to restrict access to firearms, rural, hunting and shooting people like myself get denounced every day as apostates of civilization. Signing the 4473 to acquire a firearm is the law, background checks are the law, red flag legislation is the law. With all the laws I've seen about guns over my lifetime, how much have they helped, how many lives have been saved? New laws are on the horizon, this tragedy will be exploited to support them just like countless incidents in the past. Adding trans definition to the 4473 under the mental illness category is not going to save lives, but what if it wasn't as stylish a behavior as it is today? Would it be included under the justification of saving lives?

What people do in their private lives isn't my business and I really don't care. Individual liberty is one of the principles of our government, or was. People can be trans and own guns and people can be straight and own guns.