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    jamil

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    Somehow I think you DeSandinistas aren't as different from us as you like to think.
    That's quite common. Ascribe the motivations and reactions you would have to other people. I think they call that projection. :):

    DeSantis has been feeding at the Club for Growth teat for his ENTIRE political career, but when I pointed that out I got people telling me Trump was down with CfG too until a recent falling out. Then when I showed that CfG had been against him since late 2015 making media buys against him, endorsing several different opponents (because some of their first choices were left broken upon the field) and threatening to defund and campaign against any down-ballot candidates who endorsed his candidacy, I got crickets.

    I can believe that. CFG HMFIC sux Trump's mushroom on Air Force One, while planning against him the whole time. Sounds about about like what a CoC/neocon would do.

    DeSantis is still being shopped to me as some kind of savior. For someone who hasn't made up his mind and thinks its too early to tell, you sure talk about him a lot
    Shopped? I don't know if that's true or not, but I do understand why you might be eager to believe that. At this point I don't know.

    I say Trump's been in the breech before and it is dismissed out of hand. I'm told no one man can fix everything - right before I'm told DeSantis will fix everything. The snake oil isn't selling
    Trump's resume is out of date. Maybe he could take some certification courses to catch up.

    It's true enough that one man can't fix everything. If Trump does make his way back into the White House he will need to put together a coalition of people. That doesn't play well with his ego. But, I'll leave the following space for you to post all the people in this thread who've been telling you that DeSantis will fix everything.

    This should be enough space:
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    ditcherman

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    In the country, hopefully.
    And you think others can get in? If you were offered $5 million dollars to pick the republican that will win the presidency who are you picking today?

    There is only one that has actually done it. Anything else is just hope…
    Sorry just rejoining y’all.
    Well I suppose I’d pick Desantis, obviously, because at this point he’s the only one in the news, fresh off a big win in Florida, and is perceived as a winning conservative, for now. That will change, and if he’s lucky, change back again.
    But that’s kind of my point, that Trumps already won, already been there and didn’t do that, didn’t drain the swamp (ok the going to school the first two years argument is just ridiculous), didn’t make all the sweeping changes the first two years and was - get this - overconfident - that he would have another 2 years of that term in full control, and another 4 years after that (stolen election notwithstanding).

    He was overconfident.
    My point about you guys right now.
    I’d love to have him in there. But it’s not gonna happen. We can hope, we can try, but we can’t keep making excuses for him and his ego, and make silly stuff up when things don’t go our way.

    I kinda hope I’m wrong. Hope that’s hubrisey enough for ya.
     

    foszoe

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    You were whinging about what the plan is to drain the swamp. That is one

    Has anyone else had the cajones to propose something as likely to get a handle on the problem? Do any of your faves even HAVE a plan?

    I thought so
    So is it that Trump thought up something novel after 4 years at President U, or he waited 4 years to do something others had already thought of?
     

    Route 45

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    That is some serious head in the sand thinking.

    A lot of the debt is held by mutual funds and Social Security, the military retirement fund, pension funds, and banks.
    Oh hell, I'd better get to worrying about it, then. That should help. Maybe if I vote harder next election, the powers that be will straighten up and fly right.

    :):

    Here is some light reading for you
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    Ingomike

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    Trumps already won, already been there and didn’t do that, didn’t drain the swamp (ok the going to school the first two years argument is just ridiculous), didn’t make all the sweeping changes the first two years and was - get this - overconfident - that he would have another 2 years of that term in full control, and another 4 years after that (stolen election notwithstanding)
    You are not conveniently leaving things out in describing the history.

    It is totally BS to claim Trump had a supportive congress and had ANY control of it.

    It is so odd that I constantly have to correct posters that post like they believe the office of President is a dictator some believe that he controls even the staplers and storage closets.

    Anyone that makes fun of the idea of a learning curve does not know how things work. Maybe read about what administrations go through getting going.

    Trump did not campaign on the deep state issue as it was his campaign that brought to light how corrupt the alphabet agencies are.

    So many conservatives have wanted an outsider but then when the establishment DC and both parties go after that outsider they try to blame the guy trying to do what we all want.
     

    Ingomike

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    I don't know about that. It certainly doesn't align with your gang justice thing.
    “a person whose style of fistfighting was learned in the streets, as opposed to a trained or proficient boxe

    So are you saying Trump is a trained or proficient fighter as opposed to a fighter that learned in the streets?

    I did not say “gang justice”. Only used the word gang to describe the situation. If one is claiming territory would they quickly quash any upstarts, it is the smart play to get them while they are small. It also can make it harder for the upstart to even announce the intention of vying for the territory, while setting a marker of how ugly the whole thing will be, giving second thoughts to the upstart and family.
     

    foszoe

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    You are not conveniently leaving things out in describing the history.

    It is totally BS to claim Trump had a supportive congress and had ANY control of it.
    Well then isn't also BS to claim Trump can do the things you want without a supportive Congress?
     

    foszoe

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    So many conservatives have wanted an outsider but then when the establishment DC and both parties go after that outsider they try to blame the guy trying to do what we all want.
    Good thing you and Bug are in agreement because as much as you have banged this drum lately, he would call you whinging.
     

    foszoe

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    He has a plan, now knows who many are he cannot trust, and can use the EO process to take control back to the executive branch, something he started.
    But unless he gets a majority congress that agrees with him, you have given me a con of voting for him in a primary. He couldn't do that in 2018 or 2020 or 2022.
     

    KG1

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    “a person whose style of fistfighting was learned in the streets, as opposed to a trained or proficient boxe

    So are you saying Trump is a trained or proficient fighter as opposed to a fighter that learned in the streets?

    I did not say “gang justice”. Only used the word gang to describe the situation. If one is claiming territory would they quickly quash any upstarts, it is the smart play to get them while they are small. It also can make it harder for the upstart to even announce the intention of vying for the territory, while setting a marker of how ugly the whole thing will be, giving second thoughts to the upstart and family.
    Kinda like Trump forewarning if you wanna get in the primary ring with him just know that it's gonna get ugly.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how many and who will join Trump's team given the fact that Democrats and their toady DAs in the justice dept have gone after anyone that was even remotely associated with Trump in the past. Et al Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone and many other lower profile individuals who were associated with Trump that don't come to mind right now. Basically, anyone that was on Trump's team.

    If they couldn't get a lot of them outright, they sought to bankrupt them financially in legal fees just trying to defend themselves and also to discourage anyone else in the process from joining Trump lest they suffer the same fate of financial ruin and public scrutiny.

    I'm thinking a number of people just might be reluctant to join the team and go through that meat grinder this time after what they witnessed previously. Ivanka has already said "no mas"
     
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